Conservatives? No longer…

Conservatives? No longer…
Posted on April 2, 2010 by ianpj
If you read this, no matter how tribal you may have been in your conservatism in the past, you must surely think twice before voting for Cameron’s Tories now.

The British Conservative party has signed up to the revolutionary Marxist politics of Saul Alinsky and his seditious strategy of using ‘community organisers’ to turn the people against the state and against the bedrock moral and social values of their country – and it is almost certainly too ignorant, lazy or stupid to realise that this is what it means.


This is the conclusion of Melanie Phillips in the Spectator. And for once I can agree with every word so have no need to re-write it.

Melanie refers to it as Transformational Marxism, I have consistently referred to it as Communitarianism, or ‘progressive politics’, its the same difference, but one thing it is not is Conservative.

In reading the information in those 2 links above, you can see all the policies of the LibDems, Labour and the Conservatives laid out before you (those policies that have any clarity that is). They are all closet Marxists now, that’s one reason why it was so important to undermine our politics, create scandal after scandal and clear out the old school politicians.

Unfortunately, the majority of the British public are still unaware that this is the policy source of all 3 big parties in the UK as well as the EU, time to wake up folks before you become the first Western nation to vote in a Progressive Marxist Communist government, wolves in sheep’s clothing. If you think your loss of freedoms and rights under Nulabour have been bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Separately Gerald Warner and Ed West in the Telegraph have, in their own ways, both come to the same conclusions.

History check:

In 1970, Salvador Allende became the first president in the world freely elected on a Marxist program. Allende quickly established relations with Cuba and the People’s Republic of China, introduced Marxist economic and social reforms, and nationalized many private companies, including U.S.-owned ones. In Sept. 1973, Allende was overthrown and killed in a military coup covertly sponsored by the CIA, ending a 46-year era of constitutional government in Chile.

Is this the potential fate that awaits us under Cameron? Its certain that people want change, but this Communitarianism on offer from the Lib/Lab/Con will take us to places you really don’t want to be.

13 Responses to Conservatives? No longer…
Abdullah says:
April 2, 2010 at 4:20 am
wow from this it shows that really voting with any of the 3 famous parties is voting for the same thing, only given in a different format. also, when you mentioned the term progressive politics it reminded me of a friends comment toward a video I posted regarding the health-care bill in america where he said :
“I understand your libertarian views , but in terms of health-care , they’re not exactly compatible in today’s mostly highly developed societies..”

kind regards.

Gandhi says:
April 2, 2010 at 6:05 am
I’m going to have to stop screaming fascist and start screaming communist.

I barely know what to say, the “co-ops” plan gave me a shock, but this is confirmation. Melanie Phillips is right though, they don’t have a clue, they are being controlled…

Phillip Blond. Discovered him only yesterday. Where the f___ do these people come from?

Ian Parker-Joseph says:
April 2, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I’m going to have to stop screaming fascist and start screaming communist.

And that is the whole point of Communitarian, it is neither one nor the other, but a hybrid of the two. We can all see new laws rolled out, new policies adopted that are clearly paralleled with both fascist and communist regimes of the past. That is why there is so much confusion in politics, few can place their finger on what were once strong opposites, until you see them both together in the centre ground.

I have written on this before

Gandhi says:
April 2, 2010 at 2:08 pm
At this point I am convinced that the agenda is being directed. Cameron has got it dead-on with “progressive conservative” because it seems to be a centrist form of totalitarianism, taking on the worst aspects of left and right.

Communitarian does sound better than authoritarian after all.

Ian Parker-Joseph says:
April 2, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Gandhi, Communitarian IS authoritarian. The state will decide the size and make up of communities, how they will function and how individuals will conduct themselves within that centrally engineered homogeneous community.
We can already see in every town across the UK the sameness, of shops, housing, designs, schools, services and factory estates.

It is also worth remembering that the worst excesses of regulatory abuse in the draconian powers conferred over the past 13 years on local authorities are by those councils who are Conservative dominated ones, closely followed by LibDem run councils.

It is the direct opposite of Libertarianism which recognises that communities are made up of individuals, and it is their own inventiveness, mutual interests and joint actions that create and bind together interesting and diverse communities, unique to the local environment and needs.

One only has to visit a village in the Cotswolds vs one in Norfolk to see how those local differences once expressed themselves, in architecture, farming, customs, festivals etc.

Gandhi says:
April 2, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Damn, my last reply has appeared in the wrong place.

Ian Parker-Joseph says:
April 2, 2010 at 3:00 pm
My fault, had the nested comments value set too low. have adjusted.

jameshigham says:
April 2, 2010 at 9:42 am
There’s very much a Marxist element now and this Marxism comes form Europe and the EU itself gets it form the globalism religion which it is almost impossible to get anyone to recognize. This is why the Big 3 are all part of the same package and we the voters are disenfranchised … but of course, you already know this, Ian.

Gandhi says:
April 2, 2010 at 2:52 pm
I think we need to talk through an interpreter sometimes.

Yes, I agree it’s the same thing, so it’s a branding exercise for authoritarians and a name that’s specific to the modern formula. I meant to say they can’t go around simply calling themselves authoritarians, even the sheeple would twig eventually!

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Ian Parker-Joseph says:
April 8, 2010 at 1:12 pm
“This plan is directly based on the successful community organising movement established by Saul Alinsky in the United States and has successfully trained generations of community organisers, including President Obama.”

That statement, which beggars belief even in the political fairground we now inhabit, is not taken from some far-out Trotskyite samizdat, but from the official Conservative Party introduction to David Cameron’s Big Idea.

Perhaps in digging deeper still, you will see how open Cameron is about his take-up of Marxist values..for a Conservative party it really is quite unbelievable.

Gandhi says:
April 8, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I expect you’ll find this interesting:
…notice that Morales claims it is all bottom-up. I think not, it is delegation from government to local communities – ditto with Cameron’s lot.

I would say this stuff is Marx-inspired. I’m pretty sure he never described any of these methods, but I remember something very sloppy about how the state is supposed to quietly disappear. This is what they are trying to do it seems; the state is still there, but rather than a central bureaucracy it becomes a set of pervasive tentacles. Basically they are perfecting the totalitarian kind of democracy envisioned by Marx. Nobody is to do or think anything without a subtle Nudge from the state.

If you want to see history repeating itself, look no further than the clashes on our streets on a regular basis between Unite Against Fascism (UAF) and English Defence League (EDL). Both are Government supported taxpayer funded organisations. Understand that this method has been borrowed from the past also. Better still, take a read through all the links on this site, and map how much of this methodology is appearing in your daily life now.

Now watch this:
How to Brainwash a Nation



This man’s Big Tory Idea: transformational Marxism
Thursday, 1st April 2010

When I read newspaper reports of David Cameron’s ‘big society’ speech, my heart sank. Not because I disapprove of the idea of the ‘big society’ replacing the ‘big state’; on the contrary, I have been banging on about this for years. Having seen the way in which locally administered public services can regenerate a community and its social glue, I am deeply persuaded of the paramount need to get the state out of people’s lives and restore the ‘little platoons’ of civic society.

My heart sank because, once again, Cameron appeared to be facing in two directions at once. Proclaiming his intention to end the ‘big state’, what he actually seemed to be proposing – according to the reports presumably informed by background briefings on his speech – was to a large extent a redirection of state administered funds from centrally delivered to locally administered services. But that doesn’t end the ‘big state’ at all. Instead, it nationalises the voluntary sector and thus extends the size and power of the state.

What the state pays for, it controls. The only way to end that control is to end the taxpayer-funded structure of these services. And even if you look at the most radical of the Tories’ public sector proposals, the ‘Swedish model’ school reforms proposed by Michael Gove, these parent-run schools will still be constrained by state regulation.

So I was disheartened by what appeared to be another example of over-heated spin. But that was before I read the speech itself and, even more astounding, the Tory party’s own story puffing this speech. At this point I fell off my chair. For the party’s puff trumpeted:

The new policies announced as part of the Big Society plan include:

“Neighbourhood army” of 5,000 full-time, professional community organisers who will be trained with the skills they need to identify local community leaders, bring communities together, help people start their own neighbourhood groups, and give communities the help they need to take control and tackle their problems. This plan is directly based on the successful community organising movement established by Saul Alinsky in the United States and has successfully trained generations of community organisers, including President Obama (my emphasis).
Ye gods. Rub your eyes, folks. Saul Alinsky?? Followers of this blog will know that I have written many times about Alinsky and his baleful influence over Obama. For Alinsky-ite ‘community organisers’ are not good-hearted volunteers serving soup to the poor. I wrote here:
The seditious role of the community organiser was developed by an extreme left intellectual called Saul Alinsky. He was a radical Chicago activist who, by the time he died in 1972, had had a profound influence on the highest levels of the Democratic party. Alinsky was a ‘transformational Marxist’ in the mould of Antonio Gramsci, who promoted the strategy of a ‘long march through the institutions’ by capturing the culture and turning it inside out as the most effective means of overturning western society. In similar vein, Alinsky condemned the New Left for alienating the general public by its demonstrations and outlandish appearance. The revolution had to be carried out through stealth and deception. Its proponents had to cultivate an image of centrism and pragmatism. A master of infiltration, Alinsky wooed Chicago mobsters and Wall Street financiers alike. And successive Democratic politicians fell under his spell.
His creed was set out in his book ‘Rules for Radicals’ – a book he dedicated to Lucifer, whom he called the ‘first radical’. It was Alinsky for whom ‘change’ was his mantra. And by ‘change’, he meant a Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means which turned society inside out. This had to be done through systematic deception, winning the trust of the naively idealistic middle class by using the language of morality to conceal an agenda designed to destroy it. And the way to do this, he said, was through ‘people’s organisations’.

Community organisers would mobilise direct action by the oppressed masses against their capitalist oppressors. In FrontPageMagazine.Com John Perazzo writes:

These People’s Organizations were to be composed largely of discontented individuals who believed that society was replete with injustices that prevented them from being able to live satisfying lives. Such organizations, Alinsky advised, should not be imported from the outside into a community, but rather should be staffed by locals who, with some guidance from trained radical organizers, could set their own agendas.

The installment of local leaders as the top-level officers of People’s Organizations helped give the organizations credibility and authenticity in the eyes of the community. This tactic closely paralleled the longtime Communist Party strategy of creating front organizations that ostensibly were led by non-communist fellow-travelers, but which were in fact controlled by Party members behind the scenes…

Alinsky viewed as supremely important the role of the organizer, or master manipulator, whose guidance was responsible for setting the agendas of the People’s Organization… Alinsky laid out a set of basic principles to guide the actions and decisions of radical organizers and the People’s Organizations they established. The organizer, he said, ‘must first rub raw the resentments of the people; fan the latent hostilities to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act.’[40] The organizer’s function, he added, was ‘to agitate to the point of conflict’[41] and ‘to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it will publicly attack him as a “dangerous enemy.” ‘[42] ‘The word ‘enemy,’ said Alinsky, ‘is sufficient to put the organizer on the side of the people’;[43] i.e., to convince members of the community that he is so eager to advocate on their behalf, that he has willingly opened himself up to condemnation and derision.

The British Conservative party has signed up to the revolutionary Marxist politics of Saul Alinsky and his seditious strategy of using ‘community organisers’ to turn the people against the state and against the bedrock moral and social values of their country – and it is almost certainly too ignorant, lazy or stupid to realise that this is what it means.



Frank P
April 2nd, 2010 1:14am
Good God Melanie! When I posted on Pete Hoskins’ thread “Prepare for an Annual Big Society Day” on 31st March at 12.57 pm., the item you quote on the “Conservative” blog had not even been written; that is dated 31st March 2010 hrs:

Here is what I wrote about 8 hours earlier:

>”Straight from Obama’s game plan – and Saul Alinski’s teachings. God above! Are we really moving towards Gramsci’s Guerrillas Mark II in Britain? Have we learned nothing from the past 13 disastrous years?

It certainly has the stamp of Antonio Blond on it:; <

So at last the truth is out, what I have been saying for the last year or more (and have been castigated for, by many on the Speccy blogs) is now an admitted policy from the horses' mouths: the Cameroons are singing to Saul Alinski's hymn sheet.

Even if Cameron wins the election, we now know that he will merely grasp the baton from Gordon Brown and the Long March will continue. Utter madness! This eclipses even the Neather revelations. The two main parties of this country are vying to further the causes of neo-Marxist subversives. Can we assume that Fraser Nelson and the crew are all working to the same game plan? And Andrew Neil? Certainly I have suspected it for some time? What is to be done? This must receive the widest publicity.

Is it an April Fool spoof or something?
Robert of Ottawa
April 2nd, 2010 1:59am
Bugga me, the socialists have taken over. In the US and UK!

…I will not despair, even though I walk through the valley of death and socialism….
Robert of Ottawa
April 2nd, 2010 2:01am
BTW I've never seen a community organization group that was of "the community"; rather of the hard-core supporters who get paid if they are zealous enough.
Robert of Ottawa
April 2nd, 2010 2:04am
The British Conservative party – is almost certainly too ignorant, lazy or stupid to realise that this is what it means.

This is what they lernt at univeritee; wo' you expeck?
April 2nd, 2010 2:12am
melanie , i totally agree with an australian, i see the same policies carried out by our current prime minister,but here i have to dissent with you on your past blogs, ie that in general the broad community tends to get it right. i do not agree. the oz community are generally a bunch of morons and the english community even more so.
April 2nd, 2010 5:54am
Is the British political imagination of the right so deplete as to go borrowing ideas from the deepest recesses of Americas anti establishment apparatchiks? Are they so dumbfounded and stumped for a cure for Britain? Are they so blind as they cannot see or hear what the country is screaming out to them? Have they talked themselves hoarse, blathering on about everything except knowing what to do about the country? This latest by Melanie is the surest sign they are dead wood whether they gain office or not.
April 2nd, 2010 6:11am
Terrifying comes to mind too.
Huw Thornton
April 2nd, 2010 8:48am
I'm not sure it's so surprising, Melanie. I think that the Tories are so keen to emulate Obama's path to success that they will pick up any detail, however outlandish. It's just that "time for a change" may be less of a vacuous slogan than people think – it may mean the deliberate ending of any distinctive Conservative position on anything.
Man With A Very Hot Bladder
April 2nd, 2010 9:44am
Yes, Melanie. Unbelievable is the word.
April 2nd, 2010 10:44am
If anyone wants to get behind the Community Organiser Marxist activities in the US then just watch Glen Beck on Fox news (Sky 509).

Needless to say here, in the Birthplace of Democracy, we have no such analysis of the attacks upon our Rights, Culture, social cohesion and national identity.

I have long suspected Cameron – his support for the UAF and his Multiculturalist policies – of being a closet Marxist.

It seems we are set to continue "The Project" regardless of who gets in.

This will not end well !
Graeme Thompson
April 2nd, 2010 10:56am
Whatever the result of the election it will be a disaster for Britain.

If Cameron gets in the Gramscian subversives who dictate the terms of political discourse in this country will be yapping at his heels at every moment to get him jumping through hoops for them like a pet poodle, and he will. The country's degeneration will accelerate under Cameron, not lessen.
April 2nd, 2010 11:15am
Hi guys

My name is Thomas and I'd like to say, I think it's very good what David Cameron is doing for our country. I study politics at university so I've learned many things about politics, and I know that Saul Alinksy was a good man who had lots of amazing ideas for how to change the world. The world is a terrible place, and it's because of old fashioned people with their old ideas. The old ideas will break the world. We shouldn't just be allowed to do what we want, and the state and Marxism are a great way to stop bad things like poverty and climate change. Did you know climate change will destroy the world in fifty years? It's true. In conclusion, I would like to say I think we should all have faith in the state and in Marxism and in David Cameron who is changing the Conservatives for the better.

Thank you,

April 2nd, 2010 11:30am
Robert of Ottawa: Last time I checked, Canada was Political Correctness Central! Don't take my word for it, see here:
je threbb (17)
April 2nd, 2010 12:49pm
Thomas @ 11.15am –
its so sort of great to read the thuoghts of, you know, a great thinker like yourself.
but people are to set in thier old ways to understand independant free thinkers like us. dangerous subversives like you will never be recognised.
freternal peace, comrade
Dee Ranged
April 2nd, 2010 2:00pm
Frank P

How correct you are!

Both Cameron and Cleff have signed up to cultural Marxism.

Cameroon is even wooing the pink vote now.

Neil Craig
April 2nd, 2010 3:26pm
This is the problem with having no basic principles – somebody hires some out to you.
Georgina Pascale
April 2nd, 2010 3:58pm
In Britain I would like all those council offices and those government offices to get the hell out of the capital, this people are ignorant and don't know what they are doing also they are getting paid to destroy the country closing down parks, schools, cinemas, swimming pools and everything nice so they can build ugly housing multicultural states for criminals and losers, why we are paying high taxes? no schools for our kids the closest higher education schools are in a distance between New york and New Jersey in a bad neighborhood, the government will say send the kids to public transport I would not imagine sending children to a public transportation by themselves, no one complains about anything
everyone put their head down because they don't care
Are you blind?
April 2nd, 2010 4:23pm

If this is what you learn at university then I suspect it would be best for you and your ilk to to study such 'life lifting' greats as Pol Pot, Mao, Hugo Chavez and Stalin, and you can add Mr 'Hopey-Changey' BHO to the list as well.Marxism – it's a long slow march away from life and love to death and destruction.
April 2nd, 2010 5:06pm

You are, as they say, "having a laugh"?
April 2nd, 2010 6:24pm
Is Cameron knave or a fool?

Both. …But more the latter than the former. He's a clueless to-the-manor-born toff, desperate to gain office, who has never had to worry about principle or consequence. I doubt it occurs to him to check out Alinsky's pedigree.

…By the way, if you now vote for the Tories, then you too are either a knave or a fool.

Happy Bank Holiday.
Michael Booth
April 2nd, 2010 7:18pm
Thomas – very funny.
Melanie, once again spot on. Feel deepening despair: yes, I can't wait to see Brown and Co kicked out, but no, I have no faith or hope in what might follow with Dave.
C. Gee
April 2nd, 2010 7:22pm
Europe is a Community Organization.

The idea that small, local Communities are less despotic than big international ones is exactly what Alinsky hopes to foster.

Collectivist dreams can be realized on an animal farm.

Organized Communities used to be known as "Soviets".
Baron Pippin II
April 2nd, 2010 7:36pm
Thomas @ 11.15:

bit too obvious, but you’ll learn what with studying politics and at university.

you wrong on global warming though, read Prince Charles’s essays on the subject. If memory serves, the world will end at 4PM give or take few minutes on June 11th, 2017. Good news for you in that if it were to end in fifty years you’ll be what? Old with old ideas?
April 2nd, 2010 8:02pm
Melanie, am a great believer in the eternal wisdom of the unwashed. They’ll deliver again in May, and the boy will be gone.
April 2nd, 2010 10:13pm
Surely Cameron hasn't taken on any Alinsky ideology! He has just sifted some ideas! He wants the top job but unfortunately he is quite shallow and not over bright so he has to over rely on PR packaging and stealing ideas.

But Cameron a covert Marxist,a Machiavellian figure with a hidden agenda.

I don't think so!
Edward Huxley
April 3rd, 2010 11:41am
If David Cameron becomes p.m. every adult in the country would be expected to join a neighbourhood group to carry out good deeds in their community, these to be run by a "community" organiser trained with government funds. For "government" read "taxpayers`", governments do not have any money, only what they take off us in taxes.

There would also be a Big Society Day, held on a Saturday.

Another quango, truly an Orwellian scheme. We want less state interference, not more.

Unpublished letter to the Telegraph, following an article on this.
Jim Rogers
April 3rd, 2010 12:16pm
I have to say I was alarmed myself when I read he was in favour of something Saul Alinsky came up with, also the way he keeps praising the communist Obama does not fill me with hope either.
George Earle
April 3rd, 2010 12:41pm
Edward Huxley is quite right.I think this policy has been sprung on us at a suspiciously late date. UKIP now need to question this severely in their campaigning.
April 3rd, 2010 3:04pm
As ever, Melanie, you have been well ahead of the pack in bringing these ideas to people's attention. I never thought I'd see them resurface in the British Conservative Party, though.

Lifeboat! Anybody?

As you have also said before: what is the Conservative party for? Well, now we know. Nothing. As we were. Just let the the state get bigger, fatter, more nasty and aggressive.

Labour may not agree with the Conservative Party's free market economics but it has left that more or less well alone, knowing that it can put its Marxian acid to much better use in the culture wars.

With the arguments on free market economics intact, there is only one argument that needs taking forward: the scaling back of the state, yet David Cameron – and this really shows you the level of so-called intelligence in the Conservative Party – embraces the very creed that has been destroying this country for the last 13 years and seeks to enlarge it.

The Conservative Party is quite simply full of people who are as thick as a brick.

The saddest part of what you says is, indeed, that the Conservative Party "is almost certainly too ignorant, lazy or stupid to realise that this is what it means".

On a not dissimilar theme, Simon Heffer wrote a quite extraordinary essay a few weeks ago on liberalism and autonomy, which had about four times more comments than he usually gets, such was the interest in this subject. It really chimes with what Ms Phillips writes here and pays a second reading:
April 3rd, 2010 4:44pm
I'm with Rose (although that doesn't dilute Melanie's points in any way) and think Dave just isn't one of the brighter lights in the harbour.

He got his job at Carlton through patronage (a family member, if memory serves), but the notion that being head of a PR department indicates sufficient gravitas to lead a great political party to victory is lunacy.

It would not surprise me to hear that he didn't actually know who Saul Alinsky is. I'm betting David Dim just thought that "neighbourhood organisers" sounded like a good, "caring Conservative", touchy feely idea and was much employed by his hero Obama.
April 3rd, 2010 8:33pm
So Cameron has an article in The Telegraph today, portentously titled for this holiday. He should finally find out what the electorate – or at least that section who are Telegraph readers – think of him and his "policies"………….if he takes the trouble to read the replies, which based on previous form is less than likely.
Cassandra Troy
April 4th, 2010 3:52pm
Well, perhaps this was only to be expected with Cameron hiring two top Obama advisors, one of which Anita "Mao Tse" Dunn, a follower of both Alinsky as well as, well – Mao:
Geoff T.
April 5th, 2010 11:17am
Every time Cameron opens his mouth I am driven further to the right,this is not the Tory Party I grew up with!!!
Stuart Rose
April 5th, 2010 2:48pm
Given all that has been written in U.S. conservative media about Alinsky and Melanie's pieces, it is surreal that the Conservative party hold ups Alinsky as a model.
Melanie is right to say that ignorance, laziness, and stupidity swim freely in the minds of Tory bigwigs.
April 5th, 2010 4:54pm
"If David Cameron becomes p.m. every adult in the country would be expected to join a neighbourhood group to carry out good deeds in their community"

This sounds like an excellent idea. Far better than Little Englanders and not-in-my-backyard types cowering behind their net curtains and locked front doors. Oddly enough, there is such a thing as society.
April 5th, 2010 7:05pm
Edward Huxley wrote ""If David Cameron becomes p.m. every adult in the country would be expected to join a neighbourhood group to carry out good deeds in their community"

When I was last Washington I stayed with affluent friends in a chique neighbourhood in Virginia. Around 11:00 pm the husband excused himself explaining that, as his duty with a neighbour watch group, it was his hour to drive around the block looking for suspicious characters.

What a way to live! Mr Cameron's idea is that neighbours should be something other than vigilantes and I tend to agree with him. What about you Huxley?
David Gress
April 6th, 2010 1:58am
Nani appears to believe that the Tories are in favour of free market economics. They're not. If they were, we wouldn't have heard of this asinine proposal Melanie reports.

That Cameron is a superficial, clueless, self-satisfied and utterly ignorant fool is news to no one. (The same can be said of most other politicians, of course). The problem is that, just as with McCain vs. Obama in the US, his loss, which he fully deserves, gives you Brits five more years of NuLabour. There just is no good choice!
April 6th, 2010 10:22am
Some people who would vote Tory "no matter what" are hoping that Cameron's previous lack of announcing his policies is because Labour might (or, would) copy them.

My response to this has been, "If Cameron actually had *conservative* policies, then Labour couldn't copy them.

And now the lid is fully off, we can have no doubt what is in Cameron's barrel of powder:

"Heir to Blair"
"Another Obama"
"Vote for Change"
"Community organiser"
"Saul Alinsky"

Can anyone right-of-center vote for NuCon? I used to think so.

Will the government shift to the right or more to the left under Cameron? Cameron now says a vote for him would be a vote for Saul Alinsky's revolutionary Marxism.

NuCon has been arguing, "Vote for Cameron; it's the only way to get Brown and NuLab out." This has been the only argument that I heard from them, which once had enough weight of itself to persuade me to vote for the Conservatives.

I would almost vote for anything on the right to get NuLab out of government. (Not including BNP; anyway, it's not on the right.)

But it's clear to me now that I can't include the Conservatives in that "anything on the right." It looks like the "long march through the institutions" has hollowed out the Conservative Party and filled it with leftists.

Or – would the "vote Conservative no matter what" brigade now argue, that it is merely that Cameron would employ the tools of revolutionary Marxism (Saul Alinsky, etc.) but without adopting the political philosophy of Marxism, in order to undo Britain's current slide into socialism?

My answer: You can't fight cancer with cancer, Mr Cameron.

They also argue, "Please don't vote UKIP! UKIP splits the Conservative vote. A vote for UKIP is a vote for Brown."

My answer: "Now it's looking to me like a vote for Cameron is would be vote for Alinsky, and Marx."
April 6th, 2010 3:55pm
Do you think any of the eejits in the conservative party ever read the blogs. Do they realise they are as despised as the party currently in power and that this member of the great unwashed will not be voting for any party with the syllable "con" "our" or "atic" in it. UKIP looks better by the minute
April 7th, 2010 5:31pm
These Etonians have form when it comes to Marxism. I wouldn't worry too much, it's better than the Stalinist alternative, and at least an OE will want to maintain traditional British standards.
Tim Carpenter LPUK
April 8th, 2010 12:20pm

I disagree, it is totally believable, given Cameron.
David Bouvier
April 8th, 2010 11:25pm
The tin-foil brigade might want to consider the possibility that Cameron is looking to use Alinsky's method to promote Conservative ideology.

One thing I note is Cameronian conservatives seem to have a genuine commitment to volunteer and charity work, which is less obvious with the pull-up-the-drawbridge brigade.
W Smith
April 10th, 2010 3:15pm
Just Common Purpose by another name. The role of the "community organisers" will be to implement EU policy handed down via the unelected regional assemblies (Parliament will be redundant)and to stifle dissent and improper thinking.
April 10th, 2010 10:34pm
Good Lord. Your conservative party would be too far left for many Democrats (outside of the Obama Administration) here in the states.
April 22nd, 2010 1:27am

From Churchill to No Will

Elections in the United States are months away, but in England, they’re going to be voting next month. And today they had a debate between the leaders of the parties. This was the first televised national debate between party leaders in Britain. In England, the equivalent of the Democrats is the Labour Party, headed by Gordon Brown, who is the current prime minister. And the equivalent of the Republicans is the Conservative Party, headed by David Cameron.

Now just a few months ago, the conservative party was up 20 percent in the polls over Gordon Brown and his socialist Labour Party. Today, the polls show that they lead by only a couple of percentage points. How did this happen? How did Gordon Brown – who was discredited by scandal after scandal, by his far-left politics, and by his banning of Michael Savage from the U.K. – manage to draw even in the polls with the conservatives? Because conservative leader David Cameron, like his Republican counterparts in the United States, is moving as fast as he can to the left. He’s taken a page out of Obama’s playbook and promised Britons “Change [they] Can Believe In.” he fully supports Britain’s socialist national health-care system. And worst of all, the conservatives have hired Anita Dunn, Obama’s former communications director, the woman who claimed that one of her heroes was Chinese Communist leader Chairman Mao.

British voters can see that the British Conservative Party, just like the Republican party, has no will to be really conservative. They’ve have gone from Churchill to no will in one generation. And so the few real conservatives left in England are opting not to support the party. It’s exactly what’s happening in the United States. The Republicans are backing off their promises to repeal Obamacare, Republicans are saying Hillary Clinton would be a good Supreme Court nominee, Republicans are saying Nancy Pelosi is a nice lady. The weakness and liberality from so-called right-wing parties on both sides of the Atlantic is stunning. And nothing will change for the better here or in England until conservatives have real conservative leadership.


Melanie refers to it as Transformational Marxism, I have consistently referred to it as Communitarianism, or ‘progressive politics’, its the same difference, but one thing it is not is Conservative.

In reading the information in those 2 links above, you can see all the policies of the LibDems, Labour and the Conservatives laid out before you (those policies that have any clarity that is). They are all closet Marxists now, that’s one reason why it was so important to undermine our politics, create scandal after scandal and clear out the old school politicians.


'and you think the Conservative Party is the answer – think again?'
Marxists lead the Conservative Party

Over decades Marxists posing as Conservatives have taken control of the leadership of the Conservative Party. Ken Clarke, Douglas Hurd, Michael Heseltine, Geoffrey Howe, Chris Pattern, Francis Maude, David Cameron to name a few.

They follow in the steps of Ted Heath and Geoffrey Rippon, both lifelong members of the Deutsche Vericherungs Dienst Intelligence department, (DVD) a Marxist organisation that controls the development of the European Union.

These two were exposed just before Ted heath’s death, and both were eligible for EU bribes for signing the first EU treaty in 1972. We know Heath got his.

Whereas Labour leaders obey the EU because of the gravy train bribes they so look forward to, and the compromising information the EU holds on them, these Conservative leaders actually believe in the EU and its Soviet Constitution.

They are sabotaging and abolishing Britain because of their deeply held Marxist political convictions, and they believe they will end up as the party bosses in the new EU order.

A quick look at Soviet and French history shows they won’t: when democracy is withdrawn, as the EU plans in its constitution, laws and 111,000 regulations, it is always the most ruthless dictators that eliminate the likes of Ken Clarke, to seize power themselves.

It happened in France after 1797 and again after 1917, leading to the creation of the soviet state.

Not only do these Tory leaders make unguarded Marxist comments which expose their true feelings, they have links to Marxist organisations.

The Conservative Party set up the EU’s Common Purpose in 1970, the organisation that grew out of the Marxist Demos and Tavistock Institute, and which has already trained 24,000 local and national Government leaders for what they chillingly call the “ post democratic era”.

These are the people who will run the unelected local government when our 48 counties are abolished by the European Regionalisation plan. The 9 EU Regions created (we are the south west region, Area K, Lands End to Cheltenham and Poole, Regional Kontrol – unelected government- in Exeter) will not report to Westminster, which will no longer function, but to Brussels.

Francis Maude’s office admits he is very close to Julia Middleton, the CEO of Common Purpose, a chief engine of Eu subversion inside Britain.

You notice in meetings how Cameron looks to Francis Maude, British signatory to the EU’s Maastricht Treaty in 1992, for direction, and appears to take orders from him. In typical communist style it seems Francis Maude is the real leader of the Conservative party- the Number two generally weilds the real power in Soviet circles.

Maude is also chairman of Cchange, an organisation implementing part of the Frankfurt School’s subversion agenda, summarised as “change for changes sake with no replacement”.

People think that Cameron is changing the Conservative party. To change, you have to destroy the old and bring in the new. If there is nothing new of any substance to change to, you have only destroyed, and the subversion has worked.

It seems clear that Francis Maude, not Cameron, is behind the deliberate and carefully planned destruction of the Conservative Party; the aim is to prevent it from stopping the EU abolishing Britain.

In recent articles we have shown how the Fabians, no matter what party they are in, have continued their planned destruction of our country. The old Conservative party before it was infiltrated by the Fabians was actually protecting the people from the taxation onslaught, but not by being in the Commons. Asquiths lies and treason in 1911 (1911 Parliament Act) did not only remove the Prerogative Assent power from the Monarch (king George Vth) illegally but also destroyed the powers of the Lords.

In 1910 the Fabians Liberal Government in power was trying at that time to bring in to power, crippling taxation bills aimed at the poor and the working class. The Lords were stopping this from happening by vetoing the corrupt laws as they came through. Take modern day as an example of this in the opposite, because of the Lords having their powers removed, this has allowed the majority in the Commons to pass any corrupt tax law they like, with no one to stop them.

The most interesting part of all of this is the fact it was a Conservative Majority in the Lords, which was stopping the dictatorship in the Commons.



Source URL (retrieved on 17/02/2012 – 13:07):
[1]'and you think the Conservative Party is the answer – think again?'






Brian Gerrish – Genesis Radio 9th August 2011 UK Riots Common Purpose

321billygoat You are absolutely correct. I was mobbed out of my job in the civil service – and I can tell you as FACT that they monitor YouTube, Facebook and other social media websites for their agency names – and if they find anything negative, they remove the personnel concerned. PEACE AND RESPECT to you.

SuperRedskinsRule 1 month ago



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