Christianity under attack: Anger as major court rulings go against British worshippersTown hall prayers banned in ‘assault on Britain’s Christian heritage’
Judge rules tradition unlawful after he upholds discrimination complaint
Government says it is ‘surprised and disappointed’ by the decision
Prayers at Parliament and Forces chaplains could be next to be outlawed
By Ian Drury
Last updated at 9:39 AM on 11th February 2012
A landmark legal ruling banning the tradition of saying prayers at council meetings was denounced last night as an ‘assault on Britain’s Christian heritage’.
The High Court controversially backed an anti-religious campaign to abolish official acts of worship.
Christians and politicians reacted with dismay after a judge overturned centuries of custom by outlawing a town hall in Devon from putting prayers on the formal agenda.
Victory: Former councillor Clive Bone, pictured outside the town council offices in Bideford, has won the legal battle to outlaw prayers at meetings
It prompted concern that it would pave the way for Parliament to abandon prayers before Commons and Lords business, mark the end of hospital and Forces chaplains, and could even lead to the abolition of the Coronation Oath, pledged by Kings and Queens taking the throne.
The ruling means prayers will not be allowed at the start of council meetings across England and Wales, though they may still be said before the official start.
It comes as two Christian B&B owners who refused to let a gay couple share a room lost an appeal against a ruling they must pay thousands in compensation to the men.
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Atheist former councillor Clive Bone started the case against Bideford town council in July 2010, claiming he had been ‘disadvantaged and embarrassed’ when religious prayers were recited at formal meetings.
Backed by the National Secular Society, he insisted that the ‘inappropriate’ practice breached the human right to freedom of conscience and discriminated against non-believers, making them feel ‘uncomfortable’.
The society claimed council meetings should be ‘equally welcoming to everyone in the local community’ and should therefore be ‘religiously-neutral’.
High Court: Backed by the National Secular Society, Mr Bone insisted that the ‘inappropriate’ practice breached the human right to freedom of conscience and discriminated against non-believers
Mr Justice Ouseley, sitting in London, rejected the human rights and equality challenges. But he ruled that formal prayers at council meetings were unlawful because of a technicality in the Local Government Act 1972.
He said local authorities had no power to ‘say prayers or to have any period of quiet reflection as part of the business of the council’. Acknowledging the widespread importance of the case, Mr Justice Ouseley gave Bideford council permission to appeal.
Communities Secretary Eric Pickles described the ruling as ‘very illiberal’.
He said: ‘The ruling is surprising and disappointing. Christianity plays an important part in the culture, heritage and fabric of our nation.’
He vowed to override the High Court ruling by bringing in the Government’s Localism Act, which would give councils the power to hold prayers at the start of meetings, as early as next Friday.
Sitting at the High Court, Mr Justice Ouseley, left, rejected the human rights argument but ruled prayers were unlawful because of a technicality in the Local Government Act. Communities Secretary Eric Pickles, right, called the ruling ‘very illiberal’ and vowed to nix it through the Government’s Localism Act
Simon Calvert, of the Christian Institute, said: ‘Prayers have been a part of council meetings for centuries, and many people, either for religious reasons or cultural reasons, see them as a positive part of our national life.
‘It’s a shame the courts have taken sides with those whose goal is to undermine our Christian heritage. It is high time Parliament put a stop to this assault upon our national heritage.’
‘This has got nothing to do with intolerance towards religion. Religious freedom is an absolute right and so is freedom from religion an absolute right, in my view.’Clive Bone, the atheist former councillor who brought the case
Harry Greenway, a former Tory MP and ex-chairman of the National Prayer Breakfast, said: ‘If people do not want to attend prayers of this nature, they can stay away instead of meddling and busybodying with other people’s beliefs.
‘Non-believers are not harassed in this way by believers. Why cannot the non-believers show the same kind of tolerance?’
Mr Bone, who left Bideford council because of its ‘refusal to adjust’ its prayers policy, said: ‘I’m delighted. I’m not surprised, I expected to win.
‘This has got nothing to do with intolerance towards religion. Religious freedom is an absolute right and so is freedom from religion an absolute right, in my view.’
Keith Porteous Wood of the National Secular Society said: ‘We’re very pleased with the judgment.’
Officials at Parliament said the 1689 Bill of Rights meant the Commons and Lords decided their own business, so a legal challenge would fail.
NOTE THE USE OF THE 1689 ENGLISH BILL OF RIGHTS- THE THING THEY DENY YOU HAVE!!!
I agree with the court. I am a Christian but I dont want prayers in meetings, I dont want Christianity forced on anyone. There is a time and place for worship. That is not to say Christian festivals should be stopped or turned into “winter festivals” or into shopping days. Some Christians and a lot of people seem happy to accept that Christmas and Easter are turned into nothing more than shopping days and to fall into debt, get drunk and argue during what is supposed to be a religious festival. Even forget Christ’s values of care for the sick, poor, disabled, fellow man. Christianity is in your actions – ye shall be judged by what ye do not what ye say!
– Colin, St Helens, 11/2/2012 11:47
Colin is such a div he hasn’t the faintest idea where all this is coming from- hence his comment is dangerous.
You clearly haven’t been reading these comments. Anger, hatred and general bile seem to be the first response of “Christians”. – Paul, London” I suggest you actually take the time to read the insults and the tone of language used against Christians in this and every other article that’s published on this site and others these days before you talk about “bile”. The stuff posted on every occasion simply wouldn’t be allowed if it were aimed at any other group of people. The lack of tolerance and respect shown on some of these posts (yet of course always demanded by those very same people for their own pet causes) is both sinister and disgraceful in equal measure. I think some people need to take a long, hard look at themselves and their motives when they make some of these comments. Christians have every right to feel “angry” when such hatred and invective is regularly hurled their way and they are marginalised by a tiny minority whose sole agenda is to remove them from society.
– Eurosceptic, Desperate, former Great, Britain, 11/2/2012 11:44
GRADUALISM AT WORK!
As a non religous person – I would suggest that the laws and customs of this country are based on Christian teachings of right and wrong. Destroy this at your peril. Other religions have different ideas about right and wrong(think obout it) and if not confronted by our real heritage and culture will eventually come to force these new values upon those who seek to destroy our traditions and culture. As Robert Bolt so aptly put it (in a slightly different context) – where will YOU turn when the devil turns on you ? (Having flattened all your defenses – effectively) Upholding and promoting the freedoms, liberties culture and heritage which served this country well is the ONLY guarantee of a future where those same freedoms and liberties are available. Useful idiots like this ‘Bone’ character are too dumb to understand what they are doing ! One would have thought that a judge would have had a little more intelligence in order to hold the position.
– Dave M, Bristol,UK, 11/2/2012 11:43
FREEMASONRY NOT HIS/HER INTELLIGENCE GIVES THE POSITION!
His job as a councillor was to serve the public who voted him in, not to push his own agenda in social engineering, he’s obviously not going to be a loss to the job of councillor because he obviously doesn’t understand what the post of councillor entails.
– Peter, Northamptonshire, 11/2/2012 11:32
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Chrisianity has always suffered in silence!
The Genocide You Never Hear Of
March 25, 2011
The massacre of about two million people, the Russian Christian elite, by Bolshevik (i.e. Illuminati) Jews between 1917-1919 represented the genocide of Russian Christian civilization.
(An estimated eight million died during the period 1917-1924.) The following description comes from Vicomte Leon de Poncins, “The Secret Powers Behind Revolution” pp. 147-152. Parts are so horrific that they could not be reproduced here. There is only one explanation for why this genocide is repressed, and why no holocaust museums have been erected in its memory. The spiritual descendants of these satanist Bolsheviks run the world today. Anti-Illuminati anti-Communist Jews must take a stand or be blamed for these, present and future Illuminati atrocities.
“The Commission of Inquiry of Deniken on Bolshevist proceedings during the period 1918-1919, in an account of the Red Terror, computed 1.7 million victims.
Professor Sarolea gives in The Scotsman of 7th November 1923 the following official figures published everywhere: 28 Bishops, 1219 priests, 6000 professors and teachers, 9000 doctors, 54,000 officers, 260,000 soldiers, 70,000 policemen, 12,950 property owners, 535,250 members of the intellectual and liberal professions, 193,290 workmen, 618,000 peasants.
Better than any dry statistics, the following description by a witness will give an idea of the scale upon which these butcheries are made. When the Rohrberg Commission of Enquiry entered Kief, after the taking of that town by the Volunteer Army in August 1919, it found the execution hall of the Cheka in the following state:
“All the cement floor of the great garage (the execution hall of the departmental Cheka of Kief) was flooded with blood. This blood was no longer flowing; it formed a layer of several inches; it was a horrible mixture of blood, brains, of pieces of skull,of tufts of hair and other human remains. All the walls riddled by thousands of bullets were bespattered with blood; pieces of brains and of scalps were sticking to them….
We found in the corner of the garden another grave which was older and contained about 80 bodies. Here we discovered on the bodies traces of cruelty and mutilations the most varied and unimaginable.
Some bodies were disemboweled, others had limbs chopped off, some were literally hacked to pieces. Some had their eyes put out and the head, face, neck and truck covered with deep wounds. Further on we found a corpse with a wedge driven into the chest. Some had no tongues. In a corner of the grave, we found a certain quantity of arms and legs…”
Juri Lina Youtube – The Truth About Communism
Comments for “The Genocide You Never Hear Of ”
Bill said (March 30, 2011):
n regard to the red terror from the Bolshevist revolution one the best books set forth the extent of that horror is “The Red Terror in Russia” by Sergey Petrovich Melgounov. It is published by Edward Harle Limited, London and New York. It is a reprint from the original English Edition 1925.
The book is dedicated to sustaining the memory of——–The millions of innocents and brave people who have perished at the hands of human beings possessed by Satan, whose sole product is DEATH.
This book decribes what happens when the Rule of Law collapses, and is replaced by a system devoid of all checks and balances, other than those that serve the interests of the controllers.
I believe it can still be purchased through World Reports Limited out of London, United Kingdom.
Krister said (March 26, 2011):
One of the best writings on the Jewish coup d’état of Russia in 1917, if not the best, is history researcher Jyri Lina’s book “Under The Sign Of The Scorpion”.
The book describes such details as which American bankers financed the false-flag ‘revolution’ and later on sent the telegram order to Lenin, to assassinate the Tsar family. It’s therefore heavily suppressed and as an example Amazon today lists the book, as only 2 pc. available to a price of $157,95). However the book can be ordered by sending $40 to the authors agent in North America:
Mr. Reino Trass, 50 Old Kingston Road 5-116, Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario M1E 4Y1, Canada, Phone: + (416) 724 55 16
More information on this book can be reached by Googling on the title. There is also a a short synopsis on the book on YouTube:
Jerry said (March 26, 2011):
For those interested in odd events, according to the 1966 version of the Guinness Book of World Records and if the Tunguska Meteorite of 1908 which destroyed 850 square miles of forest had occurred 4 hours and 47 minutes later it would have obliterated the city of St. Petersburg the beginning point of the Bolshevik Revolution!!!
Now that has to be significant surely!!!! Brings to remembrance in fact the account in Revelation 8:8-11 which increasingly is looking as if this generation will be the recipient of this madness.
HOLLYWOOD IGNORES THE TRUTH!
MINISTERS PLAY ACTING THAT THEY GIVE A DAMN. WHO MADE THE LAWS THAT ALLOW FOR THIS ASSAULT…..THERE IS THE ANSWER TO WHO ACTUALLY RULES BRITAIN…………AMERIKA FIRST NOW IT’S THE UKs TURN!