Army could keep A&E open amid national shortage of doctors

WHY THE SHORTAGE, WHEN I KNOW OF GUYS BEING TURNED AWAY FROM MEDICAL SCHOOL…….INDIGENOUS FOLK ARE NOT ENCOURAGED, AKIN TO THE POLICE FORCE!

Army could keep A&E open amid national shortage of doctors

ANOTHER EXCUSE FOR MORE IMMIGRANTS!!!

An NHS trust is considering using the Army to keep its accident and emergency ward open due to an acute national shortage of mid-ranking doctors.

:28AM GMT 20 Jan 2012
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Mid Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust is not currently providing overnight cover because it has not been able to hire the required number of experienced staff.

Experts said Britain was suffering a national shortfall of mid-ranking doctors, with one in four places unfilled.

The European Working Time Directive, which limits doctors to a 48-hour week, has been criticised for slowing the rate at which junior medics can gain experience.

The A&E unit in Pontefract has been closed from 10pm to 8am every day since November following the move by the Mid Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust.

The trust told the council this week that it was considering an unusual solution to the recruitment difficulty.

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Councillor Betty Rhodes, the chair of Wakefield council’s social care and health scrutiny committee, said members were “surprised” when the trust informed them of its approach to the Army.

She said: “We found out that in order to look to reduce the gap, the trust had approached the Army to bring some medical staff in and they told us they haven’t had a reply.”

She added: “I actually asked them to reiterate the word in terms of the Army coming in.”

Taj Hassan, vice-president of the College of Emergency Medicine, said: “With mid-ranking doctors there is a shortage of, on average, 25% nationally. In some areas it’s a lot worse.”

Yvette Cooper, MP for Pontefract and Castleford, said: “While we want to do everything possible to get Pontefract A&E open, I think the government also needs to answer how it has come to this and why hospitals are now reliant on the Army.”

Dr Richard Vautrey, deputy chairman of the British Medical Association’s GPs Committee, said: “We need to ask why doctors are not seeking to work at Pontefract Hospital or responding to the recruitment drive they have initiated.”

In a statement, a spokesman for Mid Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust said: “We have made contact with the Army and had early exploratory conversations.”

He added that the trust would reopen the unit as soon as enough doctors could be recruited to staff it safely.

He said: “One of these options was to look at how medical staff who have been trained by the Army could provide some support on a temporary basis.

“We are in the early stages of looking at the viability of this as one of several possible options and there are no confirmed plans.”

A Department of Health spokeswoman denied there was a problem with a shortage of doctors at Pontefract and added that the MoD had told her it had received no approach from the trust.

This is not the first time that the NHS has looked to the military to cover shortages. Last November, Stafford Hospital used Army-trained consultants and nurses to keep its A&E department open overnight.

UK POPULATION 80 MILLION PLUS IN 2007…..THEN WE WONDER WHY ALL THE SHORTAGES!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9027019/Army-could-keep-AandE-open-amid-national-shortage-of-doctors.html#disqus_thread

davmc
7 minutes ago

Bet the Trust have plenty of managers though,that’s where all the money is going.

MORE THAN ENOUGH!

olly_gark
9 minutes ago

“…. The European Working Time Directive, which limits doctors to a 48-hour week, has been criticised for slowing the rate at which junior medics can gain experience.”

Whilst it may not be the sole cause of the current problems, interference from ‘Europe’ has clearly not helped.

alastairsnare
9 minutes ago

LOL! I know a guy who is an anaesthetist in the NHS and is also a TA volunteer attached to the RAMC.

He regularly volunteers for trips to Afghanistan because he finds that less stressful than working in the NHS…

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
21 minutes ago

Why does our country produce so many Arts Graduates and so few Science or Medical Graduates?

Courses in Medicine have been hugely oversubscribed for years with many thousands of unlucky A grade candidates. If we are worried about students aquiring free education and then emigrating without any payback, why do we not have NHS employment contracts with tie-in periods to ensure a fair deal for all and a good supply of a vital resource?

alastairsnare
34 seconds ago

Science is difficult but plenty of young people study it nevertheless. The real issue is that if you are British the medical profession is a closed shop to you. Most doctors I know had parents who were doctors and have the right connections to the right universities/

Unlike some other professionals, e.g. graduate engineers, medical doctors have their own union – called the BMA – that fights for their interests and makes sure that there is a quota of places at universities to study medicine. This ensures there is a shortage of doctors and that their salaries are high.

Any big shortfall can be made up with foreign doctors.

Professional engineers don’t have a similar organisation representing their interests, which is why their salaries are relatively low (the IEE, IMechE, etc are all organisations that chiefly represent the interests of engineering employers).

Anyway, the BMA is why when I go to my local NHS health centre I rarely meet the person who I think is my GP but instead have a consultation with a locum from somewhere like Poland…

The problem with relying on foreign doctors to take up the slack is not just that it means a lack of opportunities for bright, youngsters who may not be already connected to the medical profession but would like to pursue that profession anyway. It is also bad for the countries that those foreign doctors come from, since those countries have invested a lot of their resources in training these people only to see them fly off to the UK, when they should be using their skills to help the people of their own countries…

hootch
22 minutes ago

Why do all politicians seem to think that the Army spend all their time standing around barracks in red tunics, smoking clay pipes ….. with nothing to do?

Why do they think the Army can drop what it is doing immediately after 20 years of financial cut backs? When I was a serving soldier, we did not have enough medical staff and had to mobilise TA soldiers to man the medical units – the assumption that the Army has medical staff waiting for a job is delusional, it’s the other way round ……. the Army is dependant on the NHS for staff !

The NHS DOUBLED it’s budgets over the last decade – where is the money?

There is no shortage of Doctors, it’s more likely that this NHS Trust is not offering an attractive enough salary package to get professionals to re-locate to Wales – they need to earn their pay and start thinking harder.

Pay them well enough ……. and they will come.

jgarsted
24 minutes ago

If this is true, it’s madness!

It is hard to credit that a supposedly developed nation could be so incompetently managed.

Such a situation has not appeared overnight; administrators must have seen this coming. What on earth have all the billions poured into the NHS by the last Labour government actually achieved?

Much as I hate to say it, perhaps a privately-run system (avoiding at all costs the mistakes that the US one has made) might do a better job.

As a Briton living in the US, and one who often points with pride to the NHS, I am ashamed that it could come to this.

AND THE VOTERS KEEP ELECTING THEM IN…….

gnrd
26 minutes ago

Labour introduced a chaotic new application process for junior doctor roles which caused 100’s to leave the profession or go abroad. We are now reaping the rewards.

planaorbust
28 minutes ago

Councillor Betty Rhodes -“We found out that in order to look to reduce the gap, the trust had approached the Army to bring some medical staff in and they told us they haven’t had a reply.”

Yvette Cooper, MP for Pontefract and Castleford, said: “While we want to do everything possible to get Pontefract A&E open, I think the government also needs to answer how it has come to this and why hospitals are now reliant on the Army.”

Putting aside Yvette Cooper’s role in the disastrous fiscal and economic legacy of her useless government, I am not sure that an approach that has not even had a response equates to hospitals now being reliant on the army.

I really wish that politicians did not feel the need to grossly exagerate, or basically make things up, in order to make a point.

tw1986
32 minutes ago

‘Call in the Army’. What a great idea. When the fire brigade are striking, squaddies have to step up to the mark and take over. When the whole country was rioting last summer everyone cried ‘get soldiers on the streets!’ (fortunately it never happened). Now squaddies have got to start manning hospitals!

Until very recently, I was a serving soldier, I’m getting a tad fed up of soldiers being seen as the stop-gap, the patching over solution, the general labourers-cum-navvies who can be pressed into service for any task, and will be delighted to spend their hard-earned leave doing every other public sector shyster’s job for them.

Presumably the Army will be manning the underground trains next time TFL decide to start whinging about increasing still further their already collossal pensions?

Simple Simon says
34 minutes ago

So i take it the high ranking doctors, rank to high to work, playing golf are they? they must be white and dont like mixing with rif raf, as most doctors in hospitals are not white english are they the low ranking ones, never to be promoted? so you have elevated all the chaps to the high golf playing grade and dont have enough to work, and you wont promote the unenglish, wow this is so public school.

tw1986
27 minutes ago

Don’t knock public school, Simon. If you’d had a better education your badly constructed tirade might have been less grammatically incoherent.

Ptolomaeus
41 minutes ago

“An NHS trust is considering using the Army to keep its accident and emergency ward open due to an acute national shortage of mid-ranking doctors.”

Why? Why should the military, Navy, Army and Air Force, provide any service when clearly this is a fault of bodies like the government, BMA, GMC and other doctors organizations who have failed to recruit and train sufficient doctors to meet the needs of an expanding population over the last 2 or 3 decades? We are already short of naval and military doctors all because of successive government cut-backs.

Besides, the number of military doctors was reduced when the last and the Major governments closed all naval and military hospitals leaving combatants with horrible injuries to have access to 1 ward in a civilian hospital in Selly Oak, Birmingham. Far too often government and other bodies call on the military to deal with all sorts of disasters, emergencies and grave situations when the civilian organizations are incapable of dealing with them, and still servicemen and women are treated with contempt.

QuantumQuark
44 minutes ago

Well seeing as we raised tuition fees we’re obviously going to have much fewer British medical students in years to come so the problems going to get much worse. We best open up the immigration flood gates again to make up for the shortfall right? Wait we all knew this earlier anyway so it’s old news I guess.
It would’ve obviously been a poor policy to increase the cost of pointless degrees to £20,000 a year and use the extra money to subsidise bright engineering, medical students and useful degrees…

choppac
53 minutes ago

Well at least those patients coming will be bloody sure of good treatment! Once again it’s Tommy this and Tommy that!! apologies to Kipling

tedthedog
54 minutes ago

But aren’t we short of soldiers as well?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9027019/Army-could-keep-AandE-open-amid-national-shortage-of-doctors.html#disqus_thread

WE HAVE PLENTY OF POLITICIANS- CIVIL SERVANTS- ADVISORS- QUANGOES..TOP RANKS THIS AND THAT………..TOO MANY CHIEFS AND NOT ENOUGH INDIANS.

CORRUPTION RIFE IN POLITICS..

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