370,000 migrants on the dole

Those they admit to!

370,000 migrants on the dole

More than 370,000 migrants who were admitted to Britain to work, study or go on holiday are now claiming out-of-work benefits, according to official figures compiled for the first time.

Concerns are growing that the country has become a destination for ‘benefit tourists’ Photo: REX
Becoming- they mean has become!

poll..

By Robert Winnett, Political Editor
10:00PM GMT 19 Jan 2012
1410 Comments
The migrants, who can claim unemployment, housing and incapacity benefit, are costing taxpayers billions of pounds a year.

In other countries, many would have had to return home after their visas expired or their employment ended.

The figures are likely to reopen the debate over the generosity of the welfare system amid growing concerns that the country has become a destination for “benefit tourists”.

POLL..Should migrants be given benefits?

Thank you for voting!
Yes – They should have as much access to benefits as Britsh citizens 3.57% (8 votes)

Yes – But it should be proportionate to the amount they have paid in tax 31.25% (70 votes)

No – Under no circumstances 63.84% (143 votes)

No – But this should be reviewed when the country’s finances are healthier 1.34% (3 votes)

Total Votes: 224

In an article for today’s Daily Telegraph, Chris Grayling, the employment minister, and Damian Green, the immigration minister, say that the large number of migrants now claiming benefits has been increased by the “organisational chaos” of Britain’s immigration system.

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“It should never have been allowed to happen and Labour should be embarrassed by what it left behind,” they add.

“We’re determined to sort things out. Firstly by building an immigration system that is properly controlled and which people can have confidence in. And secondly by building a new generation of data systems that will ensure that no one can come to Britain and claim benefits to which they are not entitled.”

In the past, the nationality of benefit claimants has not been recorded. Ministers ordered a comparison of records held by the UK Border Agency, Department for Work and Pensions and HM Revenue and Customs.

The analysis found there were 371,000 foreign-born claimants for out-of-work benefits, out of a total 5.5 million recipients. Of these, 258,000 were from outside the European Economic Area.

Officials used data from applications for National Insurance cards, which require people to declare whether they are foreign nationals. Just over half have subsequently become British citizens.

People from outside the European Union can legally come to Britain to work, study or visit with a visa. If they stay for a certain period of time, marry or have children they can apply to remain permanently — after which they become eligible for state handouts. Asylum seekers can also be eligible for benefits.

European nationals actively looking for work can claim unemployment benefit. However, those from some eastern European nations can only claim after 12 months on a registration scheme.

In the majority of cases, ministers found that the migrants claiming benefits were eligible for the money. In a small sample group, details from a quarter of claimants could not be verified, while 2 per cent of them were suspected of making fraudulent claims.

Mr Grayling and Mr Green write: “We’ll be investigating the records of all

those people claiming benefits to make sure they are entitled to what they are receiving.

“We’ve already identified some with serious question marks over both their right to benefits and their immigration status. Investigators are calling to see them.”

It currently takes about three months to stop benefits in these cases and ministers are drawing up plans to allow the handouts to be stopped immediately.

The analysis found that the highest number of migrants on benefits originally came from Pakistan, Somalia and India. Bangladesh, Iraq and Iran also featured prominently. European countries among the top 20 for claimants include Poland, Ireland, France and Italy.

The figures will lead to a debate over whether people who had previously paid tax should be given priority for benefits.

Mr Grayling and Mr Green write: “The integrity of our benefits system is crucial to the reputation of our welfare state — to whether taxpayers feel that they are getting a fair deal.

“There’s a natural instinct that says that no one from other countries should receive benefits at all. But if someone works and pays taxes here, it’s not unreasonable that we should help out if they fall on hard times.”

They add that the system has to be fair and stop people receiving money to which there are not entitled.

The Department for Work and Pensions has not made any estimate as to the total cost of the benefits claimed by the immigrants. Nor does the research cover those receiving the state pension, child benefit or other handouts.

Jobseekers’ Allowance is currently paid at up to £67.50 a week. Incapacity benefit is worth up to £94.25 a week. Housing benefits are typically more generous although the Government is planning to introduce a “benefit cap” to prevent any household from claiming a total of more than £26,000 annually.

Mr Grayling also disclosed last year that the Government was poised to take legal action against the EU to stop more foreigners being able to claim benefits in this country under controversial “reciprocal arrangements”.

David Cameron has pledged to bring non-EU immigration “under control” and a target to reduce those moving to Britain into the “tens of thousands” annually is one of his main policies.

The Conservatives accuse Labour of having let immigration spiral out of control with hundreds of thousands of people, including many from eastern Europe, settling in this country.

Apart from their impact on the welfare system, ministers are also concerned about the number of jobs being taken by immigrants.

Other official figures show that up to 90 percent of new jobs created in Britain over the past decade have gone to foreign -born workers while levels of unemployment have risen.

The Government believes that improving the education and training of Britons, particularly young people, is the key to ensuring that they can compete for jobs.

WHY THE HELL WAS EDUCATION ALLOWED TO SLIP DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE?

johnkk
35 seconds ago

“The analysis found there were 371,000 foreign-born claimants for out-of-work
benefits, out of a total 5.5 million recipients”

Interesting to see 5.5 million recipients for benefits… Now I know where my tax going to..

seejaybe43
1 minute ago

If we must pay these ‘claimants’ then just give them what they would receive in their home country: that should cut the bill significantly – and, if it makes the UK a less welcoming destination to these people, so much the better. We must get our own house in order if our unbridled generosity in such matters is not to bring us to our knees as a nation.

CLOWARD AND PIVEN STRATEGY IS DOING A FINE JOB!

KyleLovitt
1 minute ago

Don’t forget to complete your tax returns by Jan 31st good citizens of the UK, these people need feeding and clothing.

Making a living to provide for your family and extended dependants (approx. 5 million) is truly motivational. Meanwhile Cameron talks about cuddly capitalism, this country is a juggernaut with no brakes.

A GOOD THING WE HAD TWO WORLD WARS- MAKING BRITAIN A COUNTRY FIT FOR HEROES….NOT!

bubbles1
2 minutes ago

Like Enoch Powell ……….. the BNP were right !!

Followit
1 minute ago

Unlike Enoch, they are thick, useless and surprisingly left wing when you scratch the surface.

hedgemonkey
2 minutes ago

Whatever way you look at this issue, Government always finds a way to play down the numbers involved and I’ll bet these figures are just part of the problem. Officials don’t have a clue as to how many illegal immigrants enter the country each year (or stay illegally) and they are very adept at inventing ways to mitigate their failings.

This probably goes way back to some policy to allow as many young (whatever nationals) into the country to support an ageing population etc. Assuming those people are thick and will work for peanuts and not sponge off the State is not very smart, especialy when they come from hot climates where the men just sit around all day watching their women work.

DO WE NEED MASS IMMIGRATION WRITTEN AT THE START OF THE TAKE-OVER..CONCLUDED – NO WE DID NOT NEED OR WANT MASS IMMIGRATION….GRAPHS ETC TO BACK UP THE CLAIM BY CIVITAS!

martinedwards
4 minutes ago

Ok, the govt have finally identified that there is a problem and that it is labours fault, so far so good. A bit slow on the uptake but got there eventually.

Now what are they going to do about it and how quickly? They can no longer hide it or sweep it under the carpet now they have brought it into the open.

We must keep up the pressure to act,quickly, or they will have a new bandwagon by this time next week or announce changes to take place in 2020 or later.

If this is costing the taxpayer today we have a right to expect the solution to start immediately.

DON’T HOLD YOUR BREATH!

Les. Hayward
4 minutes ago

Odd how the BNP have been pointing this and other imbalances out for years, but oh dear, we can’t possibly broadcast the views of nasty, racists thugs, etc. , etc.
Suddenly, telling the truth has become a bit more respectable, just because the same information is suddenly “discovered” by the mainstream parties.
Too little chaps, and too late.

martinedwards
6 seconds ago

les

It takes them so long to see because they don’t live in the same UK as the rest of us. They only see the people through the windows of their cars.

They have no idea what life is like for an ordinary man in the street. They only recognise those who wear a suit and tie to work. Dave pretending to be one of the boys by rolling up his shirtsleeves is a cariacature.

CaptainSwing
57 seconds ago

But there is no imbalance.

What these figures show is that foreign-born are less likely to be benefit claimants (6%) and that of these only 980 are fraudulently claiming them (i.e. benefits tourism is largely a myth).

Of all of these foreign-born benefits claimants, there is a certain amount (not accounted for) that are British citizens born abroad (e.g. military personnel stationed abroad).
NOT SO!!

Adam
5 minutes ago

Its quite simple ! If you want confirmation of the truth do your own research!
Walk into any job centre in London and see who is claiming the benefits!
Go into any nhs maternity ward and see who is popping out the babies every 9 months!
Even just go on the tube FFS and see what % of ppl even speak English!
Its as simple as that we dont need stats to know whats going on we all have eyes and ears!!!

Manxman3
2 minutes ago

See if you can find any white kids in schools in central London. Its been ethnically cleansed

hillsider
5 minutes ago

Just how large numbers of inward economic migrants has had no effect on unemployment rates simply defies logic.

While the PM has to listen to Labour claiming the Government is not creating sufficient jobs, 90% of new jobs are taken by non idegenous residents, a situation brought about by the last Labour lot.

Can no one in authority ‘join up the dots’ and see the big picture.

Charity begins at home. Lets make that the first thought in every policy. Look after ourselves first.

EXACTLY!!!

winstonsmith1984
6 minutes ago

Today’s metro features a trial that collapsed when one of the jurors researched the defendent and then told the rest of the jury. She claimed she did not know the rules because her English was poor, as she’s from Greece. So, we now have justice decided by EU citizens who don’t understand English. What’s more she works as a lecturer in a 3rd-rate Uni in Luton.

Nothing will change under the Tories, with socialist Dave in charge.

lakebank
7 minutes ago

I’ve said it many times that pro rata our indigenous population has no more dead legs than any other country on this planet………Our gobshite politicians always like to trot out how wonderful the colonisers work ethic is and that we English wont do dirty work. This is just an outright lie to justify their heinous crime of destabilising what was once a settled nation not that long ago. It is they, that have committed the hate crime of the highest order!!

The biggest racists are our masters along with the hordes of coloniser voters they import

rob11
7 minutes ago

Mr Grayling and Mr Green “We’ve already identified some with serious question marks over both their right to benefits and their immigration status. Investigators are calling to see them.
”No they wont. You both know you can do nothing about it, except make the lawyers richer. At least have the decency to stop lying.
If you really want to do something about this, then join UKIP.
Brussels, with the full agreement of all 3 parties, has encouraged this, and the ECHR will forbid any change.One thing for sure, neither of you have the right to complain, you and your honourable friends are all in this together.You disgust me.

AGREE!

LIBLABCON PARTY!

pjwise
9 minutes ago

The figures indicated today are of course only the tip of an expanding iceberg, take into account between 300,000 to 500,000 illegal immigrants already here,also include the medical tourist who are costing our National Health Service millions of pounds, add in the criminals who have been allowed in , to commit terrible crimes in our country and after serving prison sentences can not be deported because of the Human Rights act we start to see how the system has commpletely collapsed, there is no immigration policy .
ALL immigration should be stopped for one year,and only those allowed in in exceptional circumstances , by that I mean those with such skills that they are immediately of value to our economy ( that does not include take away chefs or Indian waiters etc.) If this was implemented we would be able to reset our immigration laws.
The reason that governments have been able to get away with this is because of the apathy of the English , how many of us have written to our local M.Ps expressing our opinions on this subject, I would suggest that a few hundred letters to each of them would indicate the tolerance of the indigenous populace is at an end .

MINES A FABIAN LABOURITE- HE IGNORED ALL LETTERS…..YET GOBS OFF IN THE MEDIA- HOW HE’S GOING TO CHANGE THINGS…….AKIN TO THE OBAMA PROMISE…..MARTIAL LAW A NEW YEAR PRESENT!

tf
9 minutes ago

So our glorious liberal extremist elite continue to destroy our military, those that would defend us, whilst actively supporting those that would kill us.’Unemployment among ethnic minorities costs the economy almost £8.6 billion a year in benefits and lost revenue from taxes. Half of Muslim men and three quarters of Muslim women are unemployed.’http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new… not content with lining the pockets of our Jihadi friends on British soil Cameron also supports those further afield that unquestionably have our best interests at heart.’Visiting Islamabad, the Pakistani capital, Mr Cameron announced that over the next four years, British aid for education in Pakistan could reach £650  million.’It being vitally important that the next generation of Jihadis can fully understand the teaching’s of the prophet before dieing in the cause of Islam.Are the Pakistani authorities too poor to pay to educate their chidren? It would appear not;’By contrast, Islamabad is in talks with China to buy six submarines at a potential cost of more than £1 billion.’http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…

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CENSORED- LIKE SO MANY LINKS. THEY DISAPPEAR!

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yorkshireresearchinstitute
9 minutes ago

“We’re determined to sort things out. Firstly by building an immigration system that is properly controlled and which people can have confidence in. And secondly by building a new generation of data systems that will ensure that no one can come to Britain and claim benefits to which they are not entitled.”

waffle , waffle waffle, precisely what benefits do you envisage these immigrants being ENTITLED to Mr Grayling….

Perhaps immigrants should be provided with a list of RESPONSIBILITIES prior to them being given the green light to settle here and harvest the output of the indiginous population.

BLA BLA BLAAAA…

cartimandua
2 minutes ago

The policemans parents were murdered by a Lithuanian. Someone explain to me why a Lithuanian with no visible means of support other than criminality should be here? There are a lot of people not claiming anything because they are living off criminality.

ssimone
9 minutes ago

Boris Johnson has just spoken in favour of more immigration into London.

Is he aware that even third generation immigrants in London are now unemployable.

Poor education, lack of basic English, multiculturalism, street culture etc. etc. means that they can’t get a job.

BORIS SAID TODAY…BRITONS SHOULD LEARN FROM MIGRANTS…..CLAIM WHATEVER YOU CAN- STAY HOME AND HAVE LOADS OF BABIES!

kingcanute
7 minutes ago

My wife and I paid into the NHS for 40 years before retiring overseas ; she still retains a property in the UK on which she pays PAYE on the rental income and, because Australia does NOT tax renewable Visa holders on their overseas income, the UK tax our pensions as well.

Despite this, and thanks to that wonderful supporter of the Temperance Society, Dr Reid of NuLab, since 2005 we are NOT entitled to cover on the NHS should we fall ill whilst visiting the UK to see relatives…

Compare this to the handouts given to migrants arriving in Britain and it makes you proud to be British – NOT…

Britain is like a slightly drunken parent who holds a welcoming party for all its neighbours whilst kicking its own kids out to the workhouse….we paid, therefore we should get the NHS treatment if we need it whilst in the UK.

READING BOOKS PRE WW2- THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS TREATED THE INDIGENOUS FOLK LIKE TRASH- ALWAYS FAVOURING INCOMERS- EXPECTING ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM THE SAME MOB- IS FRANKLY MORONIC!

IF I WAS THE PRIME MINISTER

H/T

British Spring Is Here
Friday, January 20, 2012 at 12:32AM Gilad Atzmon
IF I WAS THE PRIME MINISTER
THE ARTIST TAXI DRIVER

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/british-spring-is-here.html#entry14655384

One response to “370,000 migrants on the dole

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    salamanca
    6 minutes ago

    If we withdrew and severed all ties with the EU and especially the ECHR- what would be the result – will they bombs us? Don’t think so in fact it might start a mass exodus of countries from that strange cabal. If WE the British nation agreed on a strong immigration policy that was in favour of the indigenous population and applied it – no exceptions, no sob stories surely this is our right? If it means we then need visas to travel abroad so be it – it wasn’t a problem years ago why is it now?

    We could actually start growing and enjoying our own native crops and fruits. We could start reclaiming our Magna Carta rights. We could start reclaiming no go for the whites areas. Cleaning up and reclaiming our towns and cities. Politicians should go in fear and respect of the people not treat us as if our dreams and expectations for our country and its people were fit only to be trodden into the dust

    If our luvvies, fluffies and lefties get their underwear in a knot fussing and emoting – tough – your days of kicking us around are over. What have we got to lose if such people leave our shores? They won’t be missed.

    Repatriate all the illegals no exceptions i.e. illegal does mean against the law.

    We have nothing to lose – we have already lost our dignity, our nationhood, our rights to free speech, our history has been hijacked and rewritten by the left wing, our ideals and pride trampled on. I ask again what have we got to lose?

    Yeriz
    6 minutes ago

    * David Cameron pledged to bring non-EU immigration under control!!!*

    David Cameron pledges to pledge as many pledges as possible in as short a period of time as possible. What I would prefer, is for David Cameron to actually do something worthwhile for the British people; he is just too full of himself that he can;t see the wood for the trees. If only half of the hot air that he daily spouts bore any results, one could live in hope, other than the despair that is beginning to sweep the country.
    Immigration, all sorts, but mainly the Islamic ghetto culture, is a major problem, and is growing, and all Cameron seems capable of, is doing a King Canute.
    I realise that he, Cleggy and the rest of the Europhiles have bigger fish to fry; concerning their own back yards, which is why a five year stint as MP is all that he is concerned with.

    whackerwarsop
    4 minutes ago

    This is just what every decent Englishman believed , but was , of course, denied , by our useless politicians. The equally useless civil servants who allowed them all in should be sacked and have their pensions totally withdrawn.
    this is another major example of why England is heading for the dogs: reason ; simple , the public sector.
    Led by small brained and big mouthed politicians, followed by a massive number of totally incompetant civil servants , who in turn are followed by low quality local authority workers.

    The benefits offices, another public sector fiasco, are staffed almost entirely by immigrants (some possibly here legally), and hand out vast sums of money to all sorts of (mainly illegal) immigrants. The Benefits offices are , of course, unaccountable to anyone. , rather like the local authorities under whose banner some seem to operate.
    Local authorities are equally unaccountable , other than to an employee, called the district auditor, who is usually some near retired old duffer who will sign his name to anything.

    THE ANSWER: Get rid of the public sector. Only the Air Force and The Army are worth keeping. Get rid of parliament, the Lords,the civil service, pull out of the EEC, .Privatise education , the health service, the police and justice department..

    The USA , with a population of 300million , gets by with 50 elected representatives. England only needs 30 at the most and they could gather 47 weeks a year, 40 hours a week , in Birmingham. Flog the houses of parliament in westminster to the Japs

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9026401/370000-migrants-on-the-dole.html

    THE BRITISH ARN’T EVEN IN THE RUNNING…….POLITICIANS IN WESTMINSTER PUT YOU WAY DOWN IN THE PECKING ORDER!!

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