Thursday, January 5th, 2012
Posted by Debbie Menon
9/11 and Israel: Alan Sabrosky’s Candid Interview
by Debbie Menon
In this edition of the Autograph, Susan Modaress interviews Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a ten-year US Marine Corps Veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College. A writer and consultant, specializing in national and international security affairs, who with astonishing candor discloses intriguing facts on the implication of Israel in 9/11 events that are by and large unheard of in mainstream media.
Anyone watching the following interviews and the BBC documentary couldn’t fail to put 2 and 2 together. It got me pretty furious, but I imagine that if you’re American, this would arouse fierce anger, shock, and indignation and make your blood boil.
I believe once we have cracked the wall built around 9-11, the entire edifice of lies will crumble. As soon as the question becomes legitimate to Americans they will not wait for the answers, they will move. They will probably do a lot of damage, much of it in the wrong places, but they will move, and they will take the wind out of Zionism or send it running for cover.
9/11 and Israel: Candid Interview — Dr. Alan Sabrosky
WTC7: The “Smoking Gun” of 9/11
The collapse of a third building at the World Trade Center (WTC) on 9/11 in what is visibly a controlled demolition, negates the official US interpretation in the “9/11 Commission Report”, and thus the rationale for America’s ongoing wars & the so-called “Patriot Act.” Visible proof rather than verbal assertion that whatever 19 Arabs on 4 planes did or did not do on 9/11, neither they nor their supporters elsewhere had the expertise, access & local support to wire even one WTC building for a controlled demolition, much less three of them. Re-posted with comments disabled to permit unimpeded viewing or downloading.
R I P Danny Jowenko
Dr. Sabrosky has repeatedly cited the well known demolition expert Danny Jowenko’s views and interview in his recent articles and interviews. A few days after Dr. Sabrosky’s Press TV interview, Danny Jowenko was killed in a one-car crash. Yet the dog in the car with him survived….
Dutch Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko Dies In Car Crash
As a follow up Dr. Sabrosky writes about putting ideas into Action…
I wanted to update everyone on a talk I gave the day after the PressTV interview, and how that impacted my ideas on how to outline a strategy to proceed to move ahead and do something about this in the future other than let this disappear into the cybernetic dustbin.
1. A talk to a church. Basically, I was invited by the senior pastor of a large evangelical church in PA (an Assemblies of God congregation, same one as Sarah Palin’s) to address the pastors and lay leaders of the church on 9/11 (he also invited a couple of other local pastors, also evangelicals but different denomination). This matters, because as I learned (some of you might already know this), aside from a belief in “rapture,” they are also committed to both American exceptionalism and Israeli exceptionalism, and the latter sets them apart from most other US Christians (e.g., Catholics). The invitation came out of the blue, the senior pastor had himself had doubts of the government story about 9/11, had read some of my work, and made the invitation.
So I went to the church and gave them (in this sequence) part of my slideshow (parts dealing with the USS Liberty incident and the 9-11 material, then the Jowenko video on WTC7, then about 4 minutes of the “Sounds on the Ground” video (parts on secondary explosions at the base of the twin towers, media reports of same, etc.), then wrapped it up discussing role of people in place, the motivation-expertise-access combo, and the implications thereof. Oh, yes: I began with a brief indirect overview of me, pointing out that when the USS Liberty incident occurred, I was in Vietnam with the Marines, which also got their attention.
By the end of the presentation (about 50 minutes, including the slideshow & the two videos) and nearly two hours of Q&A, certain themes became apparent (and my wife, who was present, picked up on them faster than me). One was that “things military” mattered more for me than “things academic” insofar as my credibility was concerned – i.e., service in the Marines in Vietnam and later the Army War College meant more than a Michigan PhD and teaching at Georgetown – yet another reason to have our outreach made by, or include, a veteran, no matter what the audience.
Another is that I have been wrong when I have dismissed the USS Liberty incident as too many years in the past to matter. The audience was literally riveted by the incident itself (none had ever heard or read of it before, and all were educated people), by the visible contrast between the US & Egyptian ships, by the photographic evidence of the ship’s identity before and after the attack, and the recall of US fighters twice. So when I rework the presentation, I am going to include more material on the USS Liberty incident, and if possible a few minutes of a video on it (maybe the BBC documentary below).
A third is that at the end, everyone present was outraged by the USS Liberty incident (more because of what the US Government had done than because of what Israel had done), all but one present believed that the official US Government version of 9/11 is either incomplete or an outright lie, BUT barely half accepted Israel’s role in it (and this is because of their commitment to Israeli exceptionalism – one woman asked how they could continue end their services with a prayer for Israel if it had done that, so she would not accept Israel’s complicity or guilt for 9/11 rather than reject the doctrine of her church).
2. Hitting Congress at Town Meetings. A classic set of questions is why no one talks about WTC7 or the secondary explosions at the base of the Twin Towers (which the impacting airliners could not have caused), or the van with explosives, or the van with the “dancing Israelis” — these are enough to cause almost all of them to twist in the wind. And if they waffle on Israel, then refer back to the USS Liberty incident as a precedent (they attacked Americans once for their own interests, why wouldn’t they do it again?), which of course opens up that incident.
We are making progress when a major media outlet such as the BBC airs in such detail the USS Liberty incident, especially after the 9/11 incident.
BBC Documentary : Dead In The Water
USS Liberty under attack
During the Six-Day War, Israel attacked and nearly sank the American Spy ship USS Liberty belonging to its closest ally, the USA. Thirty-four American servicemen were killed in the two-hour assault by Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats. Israel claimed that the whole affair had been a tragic accident based on mistaken identification of the US Spy ship. The American government accepted the explanation. For more than 30 years many people have disbelieved the official explanation but have been unable to rebut it convincingly. Now, Dead in the Water uses startling new evidence to reveal the truth behind the seemingly inexplicable attack. The film combines dramatic reconstruction of the events, with new access to former officers in the US and Israeli armed forces and intelligence services who have decided to give their own version of events. Interviews include President Lyndon Johnson’s Secretary of Defence Robert McNamara, former head of the Israeli navy Admiral Shlomo Errell and members of the USS Liberty crew.
Video here- link in comment section!
See the original BBC documentary video here.
The BBC documentary seems to have been broadcast in August 2008, Anthony Lawson, has covered this attack recently in his video below beginning at: Counter 2:00
The Liberty was monitoring Israel’s every communication, and I’m sure that the full story is yet to be told. This video refers to Admiral Thomas Moorer, former commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet, who wrote his damning commentary on the event in the January 16, 2004 edition of the Stars and Stripes.
AIPAC: The Voice of America — Part 2 The Treasonous Dollar Drain
A closer look at how the members of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee exercise a grotesquely disproportionate amount of power over the foreign policy of the United States.
Because of the uncertainties and ambiguities associated with U.S. aid to Israel, arriving at a precise figure for total direct U.S. aid to Israel probably is not possible. Parts of it are buried in the budgets of other government agencies—mostly the Defense Department—or in a form not easily quantifiable—such as the early disbursement of aid, allowing Israel a direct gain and the U.S. Treasury a direct loss of interest on the unspent money. The figures quoted in the video have been taken from the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, November 2008, pages 10-11; subtitled Congress Watch. A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion
Treason from Within
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor — he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation — he works secretly and unknown to undermine the pillars of a city — he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.” Cicero, 42 B.C.
Veteran Journalist Alan Hart Breaks Silence About 9/11 on Kevin Barrett’s Radio Show
9/11 and the Orwellian Redefinition of “Conspiracy Theory”
Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake — Alan Sabrosky
Riposte Against Zionism: Go Tell It To The People — Alan Sabrosky
CICERO WE SHOULD TAKE HEED OF HIS WORDS!
January 5, 2012 – 4:26 pm
Thanks for the article Debbie. Good basis for some serious discussion but that’s impossible here. The link to “demystifying-911-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake” came up as a 404 error when I tried it.
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January 5, 2012 – 4:30 pm
Thanks for the heads up on the Link that doesn’t work. Appreciate it. I’ll go over and fix the Links.
Log in to Reply Trudy
January 5, 2012 – 6:22 pm
“I believe once we have cracked the wall built around 9-11, the entire edifice of lies will crumble. ”
Well we have been discussing this for a while but I have not seen a whole lot of progress in the last 10 years. Whatever we are doing, we need to do something different. Talking amongst ourselves hasn’t helped.
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January 5, 2012 – 7:00 pm
Until someone can come up with how something was done or specifically what was done when or by whom or in what manner, you won’t see any change. When the movie loose change came out it was debunked point by point, then a second edition came out and it was debunked. It’s going to take specifics concerning actions or people to change the discussion. Until then it’s all just spit balling.
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January 5, 2012 – 8:10 pm
Regarding ‘specifics concerning actions’, the idea that anything other than controlled demo brought down the towers is not arguable. Over 1600 architects and engineers have signed a petition demanding a new investigation…this time with subpoena power and testimonies given under oath. They have debunked the official govt story, the NIST report, point by point. (Google AE911truth).
As far as ‘specifics concerning people’…has anybody been able to debunk the dot-connecting of ‘missinglinks’ yet? http://www.911missinglinks.com/
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January 5, 2012 – 8:38 pm
Thanks for the helpful response Wolf.
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January 5, 2012 – 8:55 pm
In the video WTC7 Smoking Gun video above, Jowenko comes out strong saying controlled demolition. At the end he says he can’t explain it. If you simply look at the graphic at the top of the page, that view doesn’t show the 20 story hole in the other side of the building attested to by many firefighters who were there. If you watch the building drop notice the bulge and blowout of the smoke to your left. Everyone says the drop started in the bottom of the building and it doesn’t. You can see as the bulge blows to your left the penthouse at the top goes out of view. The firefighters were able to put a transit on the building on the side away from the view above and documented the steel in the building was unracking (bulging out). They all said it was going to collapse by 3 in the afternoon and it went at 5 something. I don’t care how many architects or engineers said controlled demo or signed a petition, they weren’t there to see the building. They are making determinations from some videos. Until one of the 1600 can say this is what happened and show how it was done it’s spit balling.
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January 5, 2012 – 9:32 pm
And keep in mind…I’m not saying the version in the NIST report of how it happened. I’m simply saying that until someone can come up with specifics as to how it happened and prove it, it’s all theory. So until Mr. Peabody says “Sherman, we’re going to see Mr. Trowbridge and his 3 dimensional assassination blackboard” and have the theory stick…it’s spit balling.
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January 5, 2012 – 7:06 pm
now theyre mocking people; they are now saying iran did it. hehehe what a joke of a world
Log in to Reply Charlotte NC Bill
January 5, 2012 – 7:12 pm
“But how can we continue to end our Church services with prayers for Israel if all of this is true? (??!??!!) Yes, How can you??!! Wake up and smell the Starbucks lady! If the Talmud is real how can you end your ( Christian??!?? ) church service with prayers for Israel? If the massacres and ethnic cleansing of ’48 is true how can you end your chuch service with prayers for Israel? I’m almost ashamed to share citizenship with someone that stupid…
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January 5, 2012 – 7:21 pm
lol sounds like they just need a new gimmick to herd around
Log in to Reply The Rahnameh
January 5, 2012 – 7:20 pm
It’s the media. That is what needs to be re-patriotized.
Log in to Reply Charlotte NC Bill
January 5, 2012 – 7:26 pm
Muslims didn’t send that missile into the Pentagon…Muslims weren’t arrested driving a van packed with explosives over the GWB…Muslims weren’t dancing and waving cigarette lighters while taking pictures of their merriment in view of the Towers..Muslims didn’t lace the Towers with Thermite and RDX…Muslims didn’t get advance warnings of the attack ( ala Odigo and Zim Integrated Shipping )…A Muslim didn’t hold the over-insured lease on the WTC complex..The fact that no plane hit the Pentagon ( just ask Gen Stubblebein, Army Spec April Gallop, Mark Harris and Jamie McIntyre of CNN..) effectively destroys the official story..The NTSB sd that Flt 77 never flew low enough to hit the Pentagon..OK, so which is it? They had the expertise to take-over the planes but couldn’t aim for the Pentagon or WH? Not to mention almost missing the S. Tower…Duff and Joe Vialls are right; there were no hijackers…” Courageous CIA agents on board, under the direction of Barb Olson, couldn’t thwart the hijackings” (??!!) Come on Trow, I’m still laughing about that one..
Log in to Reply Mike Kay
January 5, 2012 – 9:15 pm
In order for people to accept the truth about 911, A LOT of adopted beliefs have to be sacrificed on the altar of truth. This is what the woman was really alluding to, with her question concerning prayers.
The lies woven about 911 are not simply about the event-it includes a sophisticated manipulation of fear, a playing up of mistrust, and the fallacy of the simple explanation. In order for people to accept the truth about 911, they have to shred the planted attitudes and beliefs about Israel, they have to rethink the planned hatred of muslims, they have to realize the monkey simple belief about planes doing it all is simply wrong.
All this stuff won’t happen in a day, but if the person wants the truth, and many do-then they will look at the evidence again and again.
Very few people can handle the reality of treason and betrayal, scapegoating and lie spinning all at once. It takes time. The secrets, however are out. The extraordinary maipulations of 911 are being exposed.
Once a person awakens, the next step is the demand for justice, followed by justice delivered.
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January 5, 2012 – 9:20 pm
I’m still waithing for “our” “government” to explain why the whole management staff at USAMRIID (where Bruce Ivins, the alleged sole “anthrax killer” was employed), has not been fired, or at least reprimanded or demoted or something.
It’s laughable that they get to have it both ways: A guy goes to work, and instead of doing whatever it is he’s supposed to be doing, he engages in a herculean effort to produce weapons-grade anthrax spores, with which to launch a bio-attack against the United States…in the process risking the lives of everyone in the area, spending hours upon hours of time, etc…and all the while his supervisor hasn’t the slightest clue as to what he’s doing?
And then there are no consequences whatsoever for the supervisor(s) involved? Yeah right.
Can you imaging if something like that actually did happen somewhere? Why, there’d be an actual investigation and actual heads would roll.
This one laughably absurd contradiction alone proves that the “U.S. government” is lying.
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January 5, 2012 – 9:36 pm
There was a story in our major statewide paper about 2 months ago saying that the FBI is second guessing their decision on the anthrax case. Some of the people that worked with Ivins as well as some of the agents are wondering how he had time to process the spores.
Log in to Reply Charlotte NC Bill
January 6, 2012 – 1:55 am
Didn’t Zio-doc sayanim Dr. Zack do the anthrax jobs? It seemed like a warning to politicians not to question the bs version of 9-11 or the Patriot Act or the upcoming wars based on lies..
Log in to Reply Detlef Reimers
January 6, 2012 – 3:31 am
Here are some thoughts and remarks Germany. If in our country you mention ANY mildest or modest questioning about what really happened at 9/11, you’ll instantly get the wildest, aggressive reactions. These seem to be widespread watcher guys, who have to get the sheeples back into their gates of thoughts.
This is especially true for liberal and leftist newspapers as well as similar blog sites. These seems to be the most gated places, where those watchers do their durty work, because the possibility for critical thinkers is expected to be greater there, than on classical conservative sites.
This has also in our country lead to the rather sad situation, that in the open it is extremly hard to get the truth out. If I myself watch others trying to do this, I often recognize, how easy it is for those watchers to disturb those people and how quickly they often succeed to make them respond aggressivly, which undermines the arguments, and that’s exactly what the watchers wanted to achieve.
I myself don’t give up and resort to the simple strategy to pick up ONE SIMPLE aspect of 9/11 and that’s – without any doubt – the controlled demolishion of building seven of the WTC. Im always very careful not to get into any fight, to argue straightly and directly, speaking without any shadow of a doubt, this way forcing those watchers to give counter arguments to this single point, without – at any time – speaking directly to them, but always to the rest of the reading of blogging community. This way I can encourage more people to take part in the discussion, which leaves the attackers even more clueless. So, my tactics is, to simply leave them behind and move on. This strategy has worked out nicely so far at several places. I also plan to add more SINGLE SIMPLE facts in future occasions, when I can raise this issue into fokus of the audience.
Perhaps these simple ideas might help you to spread the truth out to people, so they can begin to rethink. What I’m absolutely shure about, is the fact, that in most countries of the world most of the people never believed the official lies about 9/11. But the whole package of lies and the shear consequences of this evokes so much fear in the minds of the normal people, that they close up their brains and throw away the key. We have to unlock this fearfull self delusion with never ending questioning.
The truth will prevail
The BBC “live feed” concerning the “collapse of WTC 7” before the actual “demolition” had occured, is what “WOKE ME UP” more than 6 years ago. Watching the symetrical collapse of the building over and over simply “sealed the deal” for me. Controlled demolition equals inside job and government aided and abetted lies.
The Zionist “retaliatory threat component” must be nuetralized/exterminated before the LIE of 9/11 will ever see the light of day in this country. I’m not holding my breath, especially with the potential for the kick-off of WWIII visible on the horizon.
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David Boesen · Washington High School, WA
I just had a thought, and now I’m really irritated… How many times have local governments charged the taxpayers millions to pay demolition companies, now that we know that we can bring them down perfectly with small fires? Class action, or huge savings moving forward?
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