21/12 Questionable Sources – Great Stuff – Message, Not Messenger Is What Counts

Questionable Sources – Great Stuff – Message, Not Messenger Is What Counts

WHAT IS THE UNITED NATIONS- READ ON!

“Who’s really running the United States anyway?”

To answer that question let’s listen to some of the most important leaders of the last century:

Winston Churchill stated to the London press in 1922: “From the days of Sparticus Wieshophf, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg, and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

Woodrow Wilson 28th President of the United States shortly before his death said: “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

The American industrialist Henry Ford said in 1936: “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, father of President John F. Kennedy, also, stated in 1936: “Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure.”

US Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter further stated: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.”

President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter dated November 21, 1933 said: “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the US since the days of Andrew Jackson.”

In 1967 Curtis Dall, President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law, wrote in his book FDR: My Exploited Father-In-Law, “For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group. The United Nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. The One-World government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve bank.”

Questionable Sources – Great Stuff – Message, Not Messenger Is What Counts

by Tom Valentine

The following was on the net, from the Sorcha Faal site on the day the rotten pigs in Congress were passing the now famous “Orwell was right act” that destroys the bill of rights.

The website featuring this fictional writer is often accused-accused for being a likely disinformation source.

So, bleeping what! Have we all become paranoid to the point of missing good Information. OMG! Some fool might send them a few bucks, I wont. It’s your business if you do, or don’t.

Now that, that is off my chest, let’s get down to business. First thing— Information is just that—information. It must be tested to see whether it becomes knowledge or blather. How can one test it if one doesn’t read it or see it for oneself?

It irks me to see Internet information destroyed by the oldest trick in the conspirator’s book; Kill the messenger, ignore the message!

Don’t read that bleeper Tom Valentine, he’s a bleeping antisemite and health nut who used to work with Willis Carto, The Spotlight newspaper, the IHR, the Barnes review and Radio Free America. (and Chicago Today and National Tattler).

That has been said many times by folks who don’t want anyone to test information I put out.

Which is why VT became my outlet. I wanted in because the messages are not censored simply because of controversial “sources” It’s the message stupid.

If Joe Stalin said that collectives were best for mankind, we would do what history has done, checked it out, then rejected it. Most have, some have not.

Here is what Sorcha published after our Congress blatantly sold out our Constitution last week:

Seldom in human history is one able to witness epoch making events that forever change the face of the world, but this past week was one of them when The United States of America voted to overturn their once cherished Bill of Rights and for the first time since their founding give absolute power to their military forces to imprison their citizens without charges or trial forever.

Adding insult to injury in this most shocking attack on freedom and liberty the new law passed by the Americans comes exactly 220 years after their Bill of Rights was first put into effect on 15 December 1791 by the First United States Congress.

Nearly every top American official with knowledge and experience spoke out against this new law, including the Attorney General, the Defense Secretary, the Chief of the FBI, the Secretary of State, and the leaders of US intelligence agencies, including John Brennan, the top counterterrorism adviser to President Obama who warned: “We are a country that takes very seriously our commitment to the rule of law. When I go overseas and I talk to other governments, talking to them about making sure that they handle their cases appropriately and not throw people into military detention, not throw them into a military court, hold them indefinitely without the due process of law, this is what has caused a lot of problems overseas. And if we go down this road, we’re sending a very bad signal.”

And it gets worse…much worse!

Quickly following on the heels of the just past law giving the US military control over American civilians is another one that has been described as an Orwellian power grab that would permit their Justice Department to shut down any Internet site it doesn’t like (and cut off its sources of income) on nothing more than a whim in what is described as the most chilling attack on freedom in that nations history.

With these two new laws being pushed through the US Senate and Congress in the closing days of the year over the objections of nearly every high-ranking official, and with President Obama backing down over his early objections and signing them into law, one is left with the question… “Who’s really running the United States anyway?”

To answer that question let’s listen to some of the most important leaders of the last century:

Winston Churchill stated to the London press in 1922: “From the days of Sparticus Wieshophf, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg, and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

Woodrow Wilson 28th President of the United States shortly before his death said: “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

The American industrialist Henry Ford said in 1936: “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, father of President John F. Kennedy, also, stated in 1936: “Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure.”

US Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter further stated: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.”

President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter dated November 21, 1933 said: “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the US since the days of Andrew Jackson.”

In 1967 Curtis Dall, President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law, wrote in his book FDR: My Exploited Father-In-Law, “For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group. The United Nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. The One-World government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve bank.”

(In case folks do not know. Curtis Dall was the co-founder of Liberty Lobby with Willis Carto) back to Sorcha whoever:

To fully understand what these great men were saying you have to understand that these “monsters” who currently rule America, and the entire Western world for that matter, are the enemies of all human beings, and in the only documented case of Jesus Christ ever “going ballistic,” were chased out by Him from the Temple in Jerusalem after He made a whip and overturned their money-changing tables with His yelling at them, “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves!”

The great American Founding Father Thomas Jefferson further warned about these “thieves” and stated: “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

By 1912 the American people had been effectively been brainwashed enough to allow the warnings about these “thieves” to be forgotten thus allowing the banksters to take total control over their country in prompting US Congressmen Louis Thomas McFadden and Charles August Lindbergh Sr. at the time to both clearly state that the “legislative and executive forces” of the United States had been “usurped” (taken over) by an “invisible government” consisting of international “bankers” and “industrialists” acting together to “enslave the world for their own pleasure.”

Since this “invisible government” takeover of the United States nearly a century a go our world has endured two global wars, to many regional wars to document, two great depressions (current one included) and so much misery pain and death to shock even the hardest senses….and it’s only going to get worse!

And the reason it’s going to get worse is because the masses of the American people remain in a state of prolonged unconsciousness, including a lack of response to stimuli, from which it is impossible to rouse them…in other words, they’re in a coma!

If you look at any photo showing the subservient American masses holding their shoes in their hands while waiting to be sexually molested by their airport police shock troops, one would be hard pressed to notice any difference between them and the Jews being led into the cattle cars sending them to their deaths in the Nazi concentration camps….just proving, once again, that dehumanization works as well now as it always has.

The courageous Irish statesman and Member of the British Parliament who supported the American Revolution Edmund Burke once said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” And barely a time since these were uttered are they needed more than today…and not just by anyone, but by YOU TOO!

Every time you do nothing to help the cause of freedom and justice you help the very enemy whose only goal is your total enslavement and destruction.

Every time you fail to spread the TRUTH of what is really happening you become part of the enemy’s propaganda machine.

Every time you fail to support those who are fighting on the front lines and risking everything for your benefit you are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

You may think that all is lost, but you couldn’t be more WRONG! Just ask the people of Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia…these “monsters” can be defeated and have been many times before….it just takes good people like YOU to help!

I’m not going to tell you it’s going to be easy, it never has been before, and it won’t be now. But, once YOU, and others like YOU, begin to come out of your comas and realize that unless you join the fight it can be lost the tide will, indeed, turn and the world your children and grandchildren grow up in will be one all of us can be proud of.

For those of you who have followed our efforts for years you know full well that the catastrophic collapse of the global economy, the rising protests and revolutions, and the growing signs of Total World War have all been forewarned and foretold to you about on these pages, and with each warning issued also accompanied by the severest propaganda and lies told against us.

So what? Does anything matter other than the truth? If not, than let this one really sink into your head.

What you just saw was the TRUTH…everything else they’ve told you is a lie. Please stop helping them!

Our needs today are overwhelming and have begun to seriously affect our ability to keep you informed as to what is truly happening so that you’ll be as fully prepared as possible and without your immediate help we can’t survive.

So we’re asking you today to open your hearts to help us so that in some small way YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

And lest you think we’re asking too much please remember, when good people don’t help each other out, evil will surely win. PLEASE don’t let that happen.

With God,

Sister Ciara

Okay, I left the pitch for your few bucks worth of support in. That’s between you and the messenger.

Folks who put information up on the Internet can’t do it for free; if we like the information and test it, sending a few worthless bucks of our walking around money may not be a bad idea,

Everybody has a pitch, Do they not? Here is a site from one of those loathsome broker types, but the information is the key.

Max Keiser Alex Jones and their Lackeys Scamming People AGAIN

I didn’t particularly like to hear that about Keiser, but it is information one can test for himself.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/21/questionable-sources-great-stuff-message-not-messenger-is-what-counts/

2 responses to “21/12 Questionable Sources – Great Stuff – Message, Not Messenger Is What Counts

  1. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/21/questionable-sources-great-stuff-message-not-messenger-is-what-counts/

    The courageous Irish statesman and Member of the British Parliament who supported the American Revolution Edmund Burke once said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” And barely a time since these were uttered are they needed more than today…and not just by anyone, but by YOU TOO!

    Every time you do nothing to help the cause of freedom and justice you help the very enemy whose only goal is your total enslavement and destruction.

    Every time you fail to spread the TRUTH of what is really happening you become part of the enemy’s propaganda machine.

    Every time you fail to support those who are fighting on the front lines and risking everything for your benefit you are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

    You may think that all is lost, but you couldn’t be more WRONG! Just ask the people of Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia…these “monsters” can be defeated and have been many times before….it just takes good people like YOU to help!

    I’m not going to tell you it’s going to be easy, it never has been before, and it won’t be now. But, once YOU, and others like YOU, begin to come out of your comas and realize that unless you join the fight it can be lost the tide will, indeed, turn and the world your children and grandchildren grow up in will be one all of us can be proud of.

    For those of you who have followed our efforts for years you know full well that the catastrophic collapse of the global economy, the rising protests and revolutions, and the growing signs of Total World War have all been forewarned and foretold to you about on these pages, and with each warning issued also accompanied by the severest propaganda and lies told against us.

    So what? Does anything matter other than the truth? If not, than let this one really sink into your head.

    What you just saw was the TRUTH…everything else they’ve told you is a lie. Please stop helping them!

    Our needs today are overwhelming and have begun to seriously affect our ability to keep you informed as to what is truly happening so that you’ll be as fully prepared as possible and without your immediate help we can’t survive.

    So we’re asking you today to open your hearts to help us so that in some small way YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

    And lest you think we’re asking too much please remember, when good people don’t help each other out, evil will surely win. PLEASE don’t let that happen.

    ZOG ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO YOU AND YOURS!

    WHEN EUROPEAN BANKS RUN OUT OF MONEY- THEN WHAT WILL YOU DO?

  2. , December 17th, 2011 | Posted by Tom Valentine
    Money, Twisted Scripture Enslaved Us, Final Part
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    by Tom Valentine

    Millions of productive and mostly rational Americans are depressed, and furious because the great “American dream” became a nightmare. This series has pointed out how it came about via diabolical conspiracies. We must remember the adage: Where there is life, there is hope.

    I have tried vainly to influence propagandized and programmed Americans, to little avail; for example the following is a letter I submitted to our local newspaper on Aug. 16, 2009:

    Editor, Daily News,

    Apparently many Americans believe the propaganda that claims there never were any Palestinians living on the land now occupied by Israel. Sadly, naive Americans do not know the history. I beg to differ.

    This big lie began at the end of World War I. The Balfour Declaration, used to establish modern Israel, was one of the most deceitful statements ever penned. Here is the third clause of that 67-word document: “…it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of non-Jewish communities in Palestine…”

    Non-Jewish communities indeed—In 1918 the British divided “Palestine” into 644,000 Arabs and 56,000 Jews. The vast majority of those 56,000 were newcomers from the Zionist movement.

    The Ottoman rulers of the area for 400 years prior to 1917 did not in any way alter the traditional Arabic/Semitic culture of the people of Palestine. The small Jewish and Christian minorities lived in peace with the majority.

    Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir cemented the lie in 1969 with an awkward statement about Palestinians that ended: “They did not exist.”

    If one lives in America, he’s American; if in Canada, he’s Canadian—so why are people traditionally from Palestine not Palestinians?

    So-called Christian Zionists, ignoring history and twisting Bible verses have from the pulpits supported this historic lie to benefit the imbalanced support of Israel by American taxpayers.

    To paraphrase Jesus in Matthew 23:15: Believe the liars and proselytizers and be twice-fold the child of hell as they are.

    Establishing control of the blossoming world of oil export was only half of the goal of the Crown in the machinations following both WWI and WWII.

    The two world wars were apparently all one manipulated global-changing activity. Today, the Internet is chock full of information about the banking conspiracy, and the Zionist Conspiracy; there is little about the “Crown” conspiracy, which embodies both, big time.

    To fully understand where we are going, we need to delve into a little modern history of Institutional Churchianity because it is the combination of Jewish Zionist and Churchist Zionist belief systems that provides the political base for America’s unfettered support of modern Israel and the never-ending wars of insanity and oil we live amidst today.

    In a recent column, I mentioned how far back in Christian history the notions of millennialism go, finding evidence that very early writers cited it. I learned that the Catholic church vetoed the 1000 year earthly reign at the council of Ephesus long ago nevertheless Protestants renewed it big time into the 19th century— by Crown design. Isms Can Drive Us Nuts! What Is Chiliastic Millenialism?

    In 2003, I wrote it up this way:

    Christians generally believed Jesus Christ completed his father’s work. The Jews have always vehemently denied it, generating an implacable wall. Then along came the modern (1800) millennial revolution, fomented by the Crown in England called Darbyism or the Brethren (a name straight out of Masonry).

    This was a revolution that changed Christianity as thoroughly as the industrial revolution had changed man’s ways of life—ironically, the two unrelated revolutions grew together in the 1800’s. Secular history taught in schools deliberately ignores the millennial revolution for what it really is, but one need only read an excellent book: Death of the Church Victorious, by Ovid Need Jr. to get the entire well-documented story.

    The so-called Brethren movement actually caught on more in the United States than it did in its native UK. The US fervor for evangelism was made to order for the Crown, and they took full advantage of it. An itinerant American lawyer named Cyrus Scofield obtained backing for the Scofield Teaching Bible from some very interesting sources.

    In the US it was Arno C. Gaebelin, a Zionist who published a periodical” Our Hope”, in 1894. Gaebelin, a converted Jew proclaimed the imminent but non-scriptural Second Coming of Christ and alerted gentiles to the remarkable Zionist awakening among the Jews of Europe.

    Curiously, the Scofield Teaching Bible in which the copious margin notes reverse what is written was first published by Oxford University Press in England thanks to a financial angel named Untermeyer (with known connections to the Crown). Oxford is hardly a religious publisher, so it was out of character for this highly connected institution to publish a “Bible.”

    Though few among Churchists know what the words mean, Millenialism and dispensationalism are very popular today, but they are anti-Christ while pretending to be Christian. These non-scriptural doctrines actually make the advent of Jesus Christ of non-effect, and virtually “Judaize” Christianity—hardly any churchist today sees this because the ministers have all been trained in Scofield heresy at the major Bible schools. It required concerted clout and money to bring this about, which is the sure tipoff that the Crown was behind it. A Lifelong Pastor Sees Where He Was Wrong

    So, as Christianity came into the radio, and eventually the television age, the predominant point of view was and is anti-Christ Scofieldism, carefully cultivated by powerful forces behind the scenes

    When I wrote the report in 2003 The statements about what was available via Google and the Internet were true and readily verified, but today, no! I leave it as originally written:

    You can also find an important booklet by Charlie Samples by searching Google for Sample’s book: The Greatest Hoax; A Study of the Inconsistent Theology of Modern Bible Prophecy. By reading Charlie Samples you will get a clear picture of the diabolical plot to use churchists against Christianity and truth.

    ( refuting the Schofield idea of a “Second coming” will require yet another column, coming shortly with help from Charlie Samples, whose work is no longer on the Internet, which is suspicious.)

    Now we fast forward to 2004. The most powerful nation on earth, the United States, is embroiled in an expensive, brutal war in Iraq. Our propaganda says that “we” are determined to “free” the Iraqi people from dictatorship and Muslim extremism. The administration of George W. Bush has claimed our motives are defensive and on behalf of the world. George Bush, by his own words, is a repentant sinner and devout follower of Christ. He has not stated a belief in millennialism, but his actions are 100% Christian-Zionist (an oxymoron, but the term used today).

    Bush’s major ally in the recent war against terrorism has been the Prime Minister of Great Britain. Neither of them likely knows that they are both representatives of the Crown, more than they are representatives or leaders of the people who elected them.

    Were either of these two national leaders to be told outright that their actions were nothing more than a furtherance of the Crown’s goals to control world oil and to establish a center in Jerusalem to be the throne for the Kingdom of God on Earth, they would demand the teller of such a tale be locked away in a straightjacket. They would adamantly deny any such thing, and chances are they would be sincere because they are useful idiots and not part of the directorate—which they likely don’t believe exists.

    Is the Crown is a figment of my imagination? Was World War Two not manipulated and used as one gigantic urban renewal project to solidify the Crown’s earthly control? Was the cold war not a game designed to make the Crown’s military industrial complex ever stronger on a worldwide basis?

    In order to maintain power over the always restless natives of the earth, the Crown must make sure that all their manipulated governments have an enemy to face or a crisis to manage—else the people don’t need governments that steal their money ”legally” via taxes.

    The two political parties are used to keep independent thinking away from a Constitutional government. The Crown generally finances the opposition to its own puppet regimes. Does anyone doubt that International Communism is a Crown device?

    When reading history books, you should notice how it is almost always stated in “financial” terms. These are blatant lies, accepted everywhere in academia and controlled media.

    For example, the build-up for WW2 in the 1930s is always expressed in financial terms by historians, who suggest that one nation or another could not get financing to build huge, fast naval ships. What a joke! The Crown “created money from air” and loaned it to virtually every nation so nobody had any problem with “financing”

    The “useful idiots” accepted this “financial reality” that is anything but real. Recent banking and financial “bailout” events prove this conclusively, which is why the “immaculate they” know the jig is up.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/17/money-twisted-scripture-enslaved-us-final-part/

    GenerallyRight
    December 18, 2011 – 4:06 am
    Found Charlie Samples work here:

    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/greatesthoax.htm

    Merry Christmas.

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    Michael
    December 21, 2011 – 5:14 pm
    Thanks for that link, I read it and its a real eye opener. I’m guessing Charlie wrote in back in the early/mid nineties when he was in his early 30s, so he’s in his fifties today. Where is he now, I couldn’t find any other works by him? Who is Charlie Samples?

    Tom – thanks for the article, nice work.

    Michael

    Log in to Reply Tom Valentine
    December 18, 2011 – 7:45 am
    I triied and failed to pull Charlies’ tract up recently, but in my own archives I have it. The story of how I tried for years to find him for interview over radio is interesting; he’s an intriguing kid, only early 30s when he wrote tract. My apologies for the typos on Scofield’s name, but readers know who I meant. the VT system foe posting columns is not conducive to returning for typo corrections; we are volunteer labor of love types.
    There are reasons, but no excuses.

    Log in to Reply Tom Valentine
    December 18, 2011 – 1:31 pm
    Generally right, thank you for posting that link, why I could not deliver it for the column remains a mystery. Nevertheless, reading the young man’s opening graphs should peak interest.I suggest folks who care about Bible study get down with this. Those who dont care are left to wonder where he likes of John Hagee, Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts, Sarah Palin, et al get their ideas. Scofield was a piece of work, just what the manipulators wanted.

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    dirtus napus
    December 20, 2011 – 6:12 pm
    If god didn’t exist he would have to be invented, likewise, a Scofield would have to found to fill in their fiduciary means of control and biblical lies.

    Log in to Reply Tom Valentine
    December 18, 2011 – 1:49 pm
    here you go folks. a video with Celente and Max calling out City of London
    http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/gerald-celente-global-bankruptcy/
    just out

    Log in to Reply Chris D.
    December 18, 2011 – 1:52 pm
    Dear Tom,
    I agree with your assessment and have followed your articles in many different publications. I need you to understand that not all of Christendom has fallen under the false teaching of Christian Zionism. I am a member of a PCA church (Presbyterian Church in America) precisely because of their position on “Israel.” The PCA has a Reformed view of Israel and is not Judaized nor is it Zionist.

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    Tom Valentine
    December 18, 2011 – 2:06 pm
    I do understand, Chris, always have, But does your church view get financing to feature in television? I think not and that’s the point, it is a manipulated scam; look how many have bought it. Does a non Scofield preacher get a strong worldwide outreach. Haven’t seen any, and look at how they demeaned Father Caughlin, the original radio free America. Aint we got fun!

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    Chris D.
    December 18, 2011 – 6:40 pm
    Yes, you are correct. Its just so damn frustrating. How do you convinced a brother or sister in the Lord, they have fallen under a false teaching? Christians can agree to disagree about Baptism, Confession, who to pray to, pre, post, mid, even what makes up the host. But talk about that damn Israel, if you’re not a Zionist, it’s the same as doubting Jesus’s divinity.

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    Tom Valentine
    December 18, 2011 – 7:29 pm
    Chris. if another Christian is as closed as Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann appear to be, nothing will penetrate. However in any honest discussion there is no way they can defend the warmongering and believe in Jesus. This is why I use the denigrating term oxymoron for them. Christian/Zionist cancel each other out A Jew to remain a Jew must reject Christ, no two ways about it. At least Muslims are taught that Jesus was the second greatest prophet. The Sermon on the Mount says it all. The “Second Coming” hang-up does not hold up after understanding all that took place during the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD; I am working on a column about the “journalism” of Josephus, and how he reported events honestly and proves the predicted destruction was that promised “coming.” and Josephus was a devout pharisee who would never say anything positive about the crazy new Christian sect.

    Log in to Reply LOB2065
    December 18, 2011 – 6:47 pm
    Thanks so much for this article.

    The reason that consecutive US presidents back Israel is because around 40 to 50 million evangelist Christians in the US believe that the Jews must have Jerusalem as their homeland. But the thing that many Christians were taught historically was that THE JEWS KILLED JESUS – see details below.

    According to the New Testament accounts, the Jewish authorities in Judea charged Jesus with blasphemy and sought his execution (see Sanhedrin Trial of Jesus), but lacked the authority to have Jesus put to death (John 18:31), so they brought Jesus to Pontius Pilate, the Roman Governor of Judaea Province, who consented to Jesus’ execution (John 19:16).

    I was brought up a Catholic and I was always told that the Jews killed Jesus.

    Log in to Reply Tom Valentine
    December 18, 2011 – 7:41 pm
    LOB2065, That is the way the scripture tells it. You must know that throughout history the Jews have denied it, and argue that the Romans alone were responsible, and many evangelists agree with them, Why? the story is quite clear. My wife, more than anyone I know most bitterly hates “bearing false witness, ” and when you think about it, that was how Christ was condemned, though most of us today would not consider how Jesus challenging the lying Pharisees could be a crime. Stephan was stoned to death following testimony bearing false witness. The FBI today commits this detestable crime without blinking.

    Log in to Reply awaken aware
    December 20, 2011 – 12:28 pm
    Christians do not need to find salvation from sin. They need to find salvation from priestly deceivers who have everything to lose should their congregations discover the true origins of their religion. They need to be saved from myth-mongers and forgers guilty of cannibalizing and rescripting the traditions of the ancient Cults. Christian theology is based on Astro-Theology. It is a corrupt hybrid of Irish Druidism and Egyptian Amenism. The future of Christianity depends upon this truth being widely known and accepted. It depends upon the exposure of deceivers in high places who continue to profit from the ignorance and blind faith of millions of men and women who, despite their own resistance and apathy, deserve to know the truth…

    Log in to Reply Tom Valentine
    December 20, 2011 – 2:03 pm
    Hello! I overlooked a fact. Did not the Pope and Catholics worldwide a few years ago agree with some “ecumenical” bunch that the Jews were not responsible for killing Jesus? From my skeptical view, the entire episode was an orchestrated bunkum that served nobody accept Zionists; was the “ecumenical Movement” not a multi-year media jiggled event? How did that come about without concerted effort, and lots of funding? Jesus would be turning in his grave, if he had stayed in it.

    Log in to Reply bpete1969
    December 20, 2011 – 6:30 pm
    Regardless of any claim by Jews or anyone else, The 4 Canonical Gospels as well as the Gospel of Peter record that Pilate offered to release a prisoner for passover (the custom itself is debated) and the crowd gathered was given a choice between Barabbas and Christ. Barabbas was to executed but the crowd chose for him to be released and for Christ to be crucified. Seems to me that the practitioners of Pharisaism can deny it all they want but to no avail.

    QUESTION- BUT, WAS THE POPE A CATHOLIC?

    thetruthergirls on 31 Dec 2010

    I’m seriously starting to wonder. To add to his long list of scandals, His Unholiness recently stated during his Christmas address that child pornography is normal!
    links coming later. happy New Year everybody!🙂
    http://www.answers.com/topic/catholic-church
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19153
    Shirtless acrobats dance for Pope Dec 16, 2010

    Christmas address: “child porn is normal’
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/popersquos-child-porn-norma
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/opinion/25thur1.html
    http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/

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    SPIRITUALLYSMARTxCOM on 11 Jan 2011

    the “jew” Gary Krupp, is a knight and a papal puppet of the worst kind. he is a Knight of St. Gregory the great. famous quote of Gregory, “Ignorance is the mother of piety.” Now you know why Ruppert Murdoch was also made a knight of this order as well.

    http://www.spirituallysmart.com/

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    News & Politics

    SOME POPE- ALLOWS CRUSIFIX TO BE HIDDEN AWAY!!

    mhfm1 on 2 Mar 2009

    http://www.vaticancatholic.com

    Video Clip From Why John Paul II was not the Pope– This is one of the most important tapes we have regarding the current apostasy. After the first 15 minutes of a discussion on heresy (material heresy vs. formal heresy, that there have been antipopes, that the Church teaches that a heretic cannot be the pope, etc.) it really gets interesting around the 20-minute mark when it gets into the astounding heresies of John Paul II. We strongly encourage all of our readers to watch this tape throughout. A must see! See John Paul II’s apostasy with all the false religions.

    Category:
    People & Blogs

    mhfm1 on 28 Jan 2009

    http://www.vaticancatholic.com/

    ShaitanIZBack on 4 Apr 2009

    Exposing the True Teachings of Talmud against Jesus, Mary and Christianity as a Whole!

    Category:
    Education

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    Talmud Teachings on Jesus Torah rabbi synagogue israel hebrew hibrew gospel christians christianity cross bible rome preist father nun monk monastery crusade prodestant catholic orthodox muslim islam quran hadith muhammad prophet isa isah arab asian mosque madrassah jihad jehad middle east europe goy america usa uk britain ireland italy spain germany france india pakistan afghanistan imam iraq iran uae saudi arabia kuwait bahrain africa ethyopia somalia lebanon syria lybia ussr russia
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    48 likes, 13 dislikes
    Artist: O’Rosko Raricim

    .http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=HSmohHTVoZg

    THE QUR’AN..YOU ALL KNOW- DO YOU KNOW THE TALMUD?

    LogicTalk1 on 29 Mar 2009

    Why the Zionist don’t want us to know what’s in the Talmud?
    Why they want the teaching of the Talmud to be known only to Jews?
    Some people reveal the biggest secrets in the Talmud.
    Why they don’t want you to know what they teach about Gentiles?

    Category:
    Education

    SOME POPE!!

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