Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 | Posted by Gordon Duff Video: The Roots of Christian Zionism
THE ROOTS OF CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
Foreword by Gordon Duff Senior Editor
Charles (“Chuck”) E. Carlson is a co-founder and director of We Hold These Truths, an Arizona-based Christian patriotic group. We Hold These Truths has held demonstrations around the county outside churches it views as supporting “Christian Zionism” and its perversion of the teachings of Christ, real Christian values and American beliefs.
Carlson condemns Christian support for Israel, which he describes as “Judeo-Christianity.” Carlson has appeared in front of various patriotic groups and is a strong voice for America’s independence from foreign control. New video provided with full permission from the copyright holders:
VIDEO IN LINK-CHEER FOR WAR ON IRAN. JEW WAR!
The Roots of Christian Zionism: How Scofield Sowed Seeds of Apostasy from WHTT on Vimeo.
Embarrassingly, I had first though that this was former Watergate figure, Charles Colson. I had met Colson in the 70s when he was on his prison ministry, after he had been released from jail for his crimes as Nixon’s counsel. I remember his Italian shoes and custom suits as he walked through cell blocks. I had hoped that he had become a positive figure instead of the useless blowhard the world had known him to be. I am not so great at keeping track of the Christian evangelist community.
Mark Siljander has been a long time friend and heavily involved. However, when Mark began stressing a moderate view on Middle Eastern affairs that separated him from his rabid neocon past, he was soon indicted under what can only be called bizarre and mysterious circumstances, which I have to describe as persecution of a good man for his righteous beliefs. I am proud to be his friend.
Carlson, Charles E., is hated by the ADL, the fanatic ultra-nationalist organization that works to stifle free speech in American and works and in hand with Israeli intelligence agencies to keep wars going in the Middle East, wars that have killed thousands of Americans and helped bankrupt our country. Carlson’s work on these videos is impressive, they are an education that every American, certainly every American Christian should have and one every American Jew should understand. Jews should know their enemy.
It is AIPAC and the ADL, the shills of banking interests and criminal organizations who have hijacked Jewish organizations through trickery and petty gangsterism. These are the pure anti-Semites and dedicated, perhaps purposefully, perhaps inadvertently, to the destruction of everything worthwhile about Jewish culture and tradition, one of the most vital parts of America’s “melting pot.”
■We Hold These Truths and Strait Gate Ministries
■Contact Chuck Carlson via email at email@example.com
October 12, 2011 – 2:52 pm
Everyone should watch this. Superior.
Also, watch Carlson’s other video on Vimeo, called The Tragedy and The Turning: http://vimeo.com/29901084 (look at right panel for link).
I believe Carlson used to be an Evangelical himself at one time, but don’t quote me. He is a devout Christian, however.
Reply Tom Valentine
October 12, 2011 – 3:14 pm
It will be interesting to see whether the eager regulars who comment enthusiastically on your columns which dissect the world of Mammon’s minions respond to this seminal piece on the power of twisted belief with the same robustness. After all this topic has no glamor or pizazz, but takes deep analytical thought. Anyone who has read my columns on the oxymoron term Christian Zionism knows that I have joined Carlson’s campaigns decades ago. I do not have Chuck’s great patience with the ninnies who refuse to think in their absurd beliefs; Gordon, this was a necessary presentation.
October 12, 2011 – 8:03 pm
Not sure if it is covered in this video, but Cyrus I. Scolfield went to Switzerland (for a few years to finish his reference bible) at the same time and country, where the world’s First Zionist Congress (in 1897) was taking place! (Theodor Herzl chaired the event) Chance or ??? Was it one of those anomalies that seems to plague Zionism’s history?
Is their any explanation as to why a convicted criminal would travel half way around the world to a place that is a tax haven for Bankers, Elite and Nobilities throughout Europe that just happened to be where publicly the birth of Zionism would begin… or by design?
October 12, 2011 – 3:42 pm
You used a phrase, Gordon, that I’ve adopted and slightly changed from one of your other articles, when responding to ADL mongloid-minded individuals: “Stop scapegoating Judaism!”
I also refer you to Brother Nathaniel, who runs realzionistnews.com. He seems to be of this vein. I actually discovered that site through another one of your reader’s comments in another article. It proved to be very informational. I haven’t had a chance to vet all the information properly, however, so I do disclaim accordingly.
October 12, 2011 – 4:47 pm
Brother Nathanael is one of the very few ethnic Jews who has the courage and decency to disavow “the tribe” in favor of truth. He is an amazing guy and his site is a goldmine for genuine Jews or Christians interested in truth, justice or the “American Way.”
October 12, 2011 – 3:47 pm
I think this is one of the best pieces I’ve read on VT. Personally, I bailed on “the Church” 30 years ago because of the fundamentalist morons that took over the Church in the Reagan years, the so-called “religious right.” The “Christian zionists” are a re-branding of the same jerks and they deserve to be told to eff off in no uncertain terms.
Anyway, as much as I HATE dealing with these holes, it’s become a necessary evil. Israel would not be the demonic obscenity that it has become without the support from these cretins, political, financial and otherwise. Unfortunately, the only way to shut them up is to become versed in their pathological views and to speak their “language. I’m not certain if that’s gonna work, either, but it’s our only hope.
My point is, Mr. Duff, as much as you may hate dealing with these losers, TRYING to bring them back to planet Earth is the only way out of this judeo-christian Hell that I can see. Your efforts are appreciated.
October 12, 2011 – 4:03 pm
Yeah, they(Christian Zionists) are way easier to reason with and convert than Jews are. In fact, this “movement” is full of ex Christian Zionists. It’s not full of ex Jewish Zionists though. In fact the Jewish Zionists seem to be getting more bold and outrageous in their activities. Why is that?
October 12, 2011 – 4:10 pm
I just spoke with on old friend, a Jew, not an hour ago who has me asking the very same question. My old friend has never appeared (to me) to be a radical zionist, yet seems terrified of speaking out or making as stance for justice.
Quite frankly, I’m at least as stumped as you are. Fear does funny things, though. That’s the best theory I got, at the moment.
October 12, 2011 – 6:15 pm
Now that they know they have full control of the Government of the JewSA, they no longer have to hide in the shadows. They can operate in full daylight. If the goyim resists then they shall be duly punished – have their employment/livelihood taken away and possibly even imprisoned or killed outright. The jews are not frightened in any way. They see and monitor all the chatter on the internet and always direct it back in their favor. There’s so many fence sitters that can be frightened in to conforming lest they lose their 72″ Talmudvision and iDevices.
October 12, 2011 – 6:41 pm
I agree 105 percent.
Reply Chris Delzio
October 12, 2011 – 6:29 pm
I also bailed on ‘the church.’ However, i stumbled into a PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) church and found what I wqas looking for. A church that believes.. we Christians brothers & sisters did not replaced Israel because we always were Israel. Israel = the church. In other words, the term Israel is synonymous with the term ‘the church.’ See here – http://www.pcanet.org/ And may He bless you.
October 12, 2011 – 3:58 pm
Woodrow Wilson and his story of Untermyer and the treachery in placing Brandise in the Supreme Court is powerful and I’ve read about it several times over the years.
And all the deception before and after is mind bending in terms of the “incrementalism” that was followed.
Where do these creatures, these supreme manipulators, deceivers, blood thirsty, parasites come from?
They are worse than all the plagues combined.
They are not of this world.
October 12, 2011 – 4:58 pm
It’s like playing the piano. It takes a lot of PRACTICE. And a lot of brainwashing, too.
October 12, 2011 – 5:20 pm
I am reminded of this great revelation to me on the Bill Maher show
Bill Maher: Why Do Christian Conservatives Love Israel?
October 12, 2011 – 6:10 pm
Christians and jews have no common ground whatsoever.
Most Christians have the lie jammed in to their head that Jesus Christ was jewish. This is a lie created to spare jews retribution for the killing of the Christian saviour.
Christians have the Old and New Testaments as their basis of their beliefs. jews have the Talmud and their individual Torahs.
Christians are taught that morality, decency, respect, human dignity and compassion are as much a part of their beliefs as the teachings of the Bible. jews see these traits as weaknesses to be exploited not honored as admirable traits in another human being.
Christians see money as a means to end. jews see money as everything.
Christians believe in eternal damnation for sins committed while in the human flesh. jews believe this is all you get, make the most of it and don’t worry about sinning or wronging others as long as they’re not jews, it doesn’t matter.
Christians believe in the brotherhood of mankind and that all can share in the Glory of the Kingdom of God if you accept Christ as your saviour and live by his teachings. jews believe money is everything.
Christians believe in tolerance. jews believe Christians are their enemies and should be enslaved as jews are the Master Race and all others chaff (cattle/goyim), placed upon the Earth to serve the jew.
In short – there is no divide to close. There is no common ground. Christians and jews can not and should live together. There is no discussions to have. There is no peace to seek. There is no compromise to solve the issue. Christians should never associate with jews. Christians should shun jews and not engage them in any manner. Allow jews in to the ranks of Christians is to open the gates to your enemy and to do so is traitorous not only to your beliefs but also whatever race or nationality that you belong to. The jew knows and recognizes no borders as jews see that the entire Earth MUST fall within their control.
October 12, 2011 – 6:24 pm
Christians and jews can not and should NOT live together. (fixed!)
October 12, 2011 – 6:47 pm
I agree but dontcha think there are exceptions, that is, “Jews” that have escaped the grip of their depraved “tribe”?
October 12, 2011 – 8:34 pm
kill anyone that believes in any god as it is all bullshit, except my religion of course as it is THE TRUE religion. see how they all believe theirs is the best.
October 12, 2011 – 9:11 pm
Spoken like a true aethist that your religion of aethism is the one “True Religion”
October 12, 2011 – 8:29 pm
What is wrong with this video?
Where do the seeds of Christian Zionism/Evangelicism find root?
Most often in the fertile soil of those already disposed to non-empirical thinking through exposure to and indoctrination of the impossibility of Christian beliefs or any other faith based world view.
One group of magical thinkers attacking an even more dangerous group of believers – though somewhat helpful – is still insidious religious propaganda by any name you choose to call it.
Even a house of good will and intentions built on the quick-sand of magical thinking will eventually become a problem for everyone in the neighborhood.
If it’s a shared and confirmable truth we seek, perhaps the time has come to leave issues of faith out of the equation entirely.
Paging Mr. Richard Dawkins and Mr. Sam Harris…..
October 12, 2011 – 9:16 pm
Love and Hate are not for you to decide. The problem with you liberals and you learned it from jews is that you want power over everyone and everything so that the world thinks, says and does as you command. That’s the true of FREEDOM of belief. That you can rid yourself of the constraints of State based belief systems such as seculuar humanism and a human centric universe. You liberals never see the sky, the birds, the grass……. you only see what is perverse and vulgar about mankind and then you wallow in it.
October 12, 2011 – 9:50 pm
“Love and Hate are not for you to decide.”
Sure, I decide for myself and you decide for yourself. I’m certainly not going to let you decide for me nor do I expect you to allow me to decide for you. I do wish you’d listen to my ideas and in return I will do my best to listen with an open mind to you. No promises though.
“The problem with you liberals and you learned it from jews is that you want power over everyone and everything so that the world thinks, says and does as you command.”
When I examine my motives and ways of thinking, I do not see what you accuse me of – though I suppose it is possible I somehow choose not to notice it or have rendered myself unable to notice it. Either way – if what you say is true – I’m doing a spectacularly piss poor job of commanding the world as I can’t even get anyone to listen to my music.
“That’s the true of FREEDOM of belief. That you can rid yourself of the constraints of State based belief systems such as seculuar humanism and a human centric universe.”
Well, I like that argument. And perhaps someday we will achieve just that. But I personally would also like to see us free from religious belief systems and I suppose that is where you and I must differ.
“You liberals never see the sky, the birds, the grass……. you only see what is perverse and vulgar about mankind and then you wallow in it.”
You mis-characterize me most egregiously. But of course, making a sweeping personal and ideological attack based on your own lack of awareness, your own ideology and without knowing a single fact about me – how could you help but be anything other than completely wrong?
But I have enjoyed responding to your somewhat wild assertions and I do look forward to further interesting exchanges.
October 12, 2011 – 10:32 pm
October 12, 2011 – 10:34 pm
The above comment was directed towards Vox.
“You liberals never see the sky, the birds, the grass……. you only see what is perverse and vulgar about mankind and then you wallow in it.”
October 12, 2011 – 11:20 pm
For the sake of clarity, reamonnk, does that mean you do or you do not see the ridiculous, self immolating irony of that assertion by Vox?
October 13, 2011 – 12:07 am
Archer, it wasn’t any kind of indictment on your post. In fact, I was just skimming the comments section and read Vox’s funny comment. I didn’t even read what he was replying to but assumed his reply would be a good read because he is such a loose cannon and he’s wildly unpredictable.
October 13, 2011 – 12:41 am
reamonnk, thanks for the reply, appreciate it. Loose cannon, wildly unpredictable – yeah, ok, I’ll go along with that.
October 12, 2011 – 9:13 pm
It would be interesting indeed to ascertain the individual and collective I.Q. of xtian zionists. I predict the results would not be of little surprise to anyone. The lot of them are by definition, ignorant, blindly obedient to any form or type of authority, gullible, easily manipulated with the promise of some sort of salvation, ie: rapture, and easily coerced into giving large sums of money to a group of people who absolutely hate their guts and as well, believe they are nothing but “useful idiots.”
The old saying” If you tell a big enough lie, long enough, the people will believe it>” Definitely holds true when it come to religion and especially if the jews are involved.
Throw out the Scofield bible, or better yet just throw it into a bonfire.
Better yet just throw religion into a bonfire.
We’re not gonna take it
Never did and never will.
Don’t want no religion
And as far as we can tell
We ain’t gonna take you
never did and never will
We’re not gonna take you
We forsake you
Gonna rape you
Let’s forget you better still….
Lyrics from “Tommy” the Rock Opera by the WHO
One of my favorite songs just behind “Won’t get Fooled Again”
October 12, 2011 – 9:19 pm
Quoting “The Who” (I’m virtually laughing and pointing at you). What a rube. You find the missives a of British rock group profound and moving. You’re a tool.
October 12, 2011 – 10:32 pm
Don’t know any “christian” zionists but they appear to be easily indoctrinated into a lie making them an occult in my eyes.
October 13, 2011 – 2:41 am
Gordon, don’t be fooled! I have a copy of the 1917 Scofield Reference Bible. There are far too many amateurs in theology in the “alternative media” making judgements on this book. To deny the Old Testament is to deny Jesus Christ.
TALMUDIC WARS ARE NOT OUR WARS!!