Phony History: Why There Will Be No Peace in Judea Or Palestine Or Israel or Whatever

Phony History: Why There Will Be No Peace in Judea Or Palestine Or Israel or Whatever

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The Khazar Khaganate – Between 650 and 850

TWO MAPS SHOW ISRAEL OR JUDEA, MANY MORE SHOW NEITHERThe Recent Stuff is Lies, the Earlier? Fairy tales

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

No surprise to anyone, but there is no reliable history of the Jewish people. It isn’t just them, when it comes down to history, everyone lies. I have been on “government sponsored” tours of sites all over the world.

I have had French tell me a Roman ruin from 100AD was built by a French king 300 years ago. In Hungary, Roman ruins are dated a thousand years or more after they were built, to support a heritage that never happened.

Entire religions, entire historical epochs are erased, cleansed from history. History is a liar.

Roman Ruins are Commonly ‘Borrowed’
The lies of history are peddled by universities funded by more liars, liars and thieves buying more lies from more liars and thieves. In the last 20 years, television documentaries have debunked 75% of what we have accepted as history and done so with scholarship “above the norm.”

What is the “norm?” A historical fact is any lie that has more than two people agree to it. What historians call “fact,” any cop would call a “shaky alibi.”

There is no bigger historical liar than the history of Judea, the Roman province that now includes a state Jews choose to call Israel.

With a UN vote coming up that President Obama has already promised to veto, a vote giving what may actually be the majority from that region national rights they have been denied, we are talking about the Palestinians, there are suggestions for “talks.”

There can be no talks because there is no basis for talks. Talks are based on ideas and understandings and the history of the region, be it from 1948 onward on since Exodus and the Egyptian escape, is all total bull, invented mythology made up to support wild claims or simply entertain.

Follow the Israeli Attack Arrows
Jews are told Palestinians are terrorists because of a version of the 1948 war that Israel teaches their people and is taught in America because of Israeli influence. It is false.

The Suez Canal war of 1956 isn’t taught either.

Many incidents such as the Lavon Affair and the USS Liberty are simply erased because they don’t fit.

That Israel staged the 1967 war as a sneak attack on Egypt, done with considerable help from the US, Britain and France, is another historical secret as is the 1973 war when Israel was kept afloat by the entire military strength of the United States.

Why do you think the Arabs cut off America’s oil?

It was because America sent its military to defend Israel when the Arabs tried to get the land back that was stolen during the sneak attack of 1967?

If much of this is strange to you, you have an Orwellian education, meaning “no education at all.”

We could start with 1948. Palestinians owned Palestine along with some Jews and Christians. Europeans of Jewish faith, armed to the teeth by the US, France and Britain, invaded and pushed the Palestinians off their land. Fighting back is called “terrorism.”

The Zionist European Invasion Was Successful – American Intel Reported They Would Easily Defeat the Arabs
This is simple historical truth. Problem is, until Israelis and Americans are willing to accept the real truth, they can never talk to anyone. Who wants to talk to a deluded bigot?

It gets worse, not just for Jews. Muslims and Christians are ‘full of it’ as well.

Lost Tribes – MarkChagall
First of all, there is no historical proof that any “Israeli” kingdom ever existed anywhere. There is no proof, despite decades of “faith based” archeology, phony science, phony history and phony propaganda that Moses or Noah or Abraham ever existed.

In fact, the “holy texts” were long proven forgeries, invented to justify land theft, wild stories of angels and gods giving things away, wildly contradictory, childish in scope and unsupported by science, by evidence and even reason. “They made it all up.”

What is represented as the “tribes of Israel” was a minor group of largely polytheistic tribes at war with each other and anyone, one of dozens of such groups, who disappeared from the sands of time.

Wild stories that talk of magical beings giving them land and power, not entirely different from the writings of Homer, don’t change that. Homer wrote much better.

Things we know. When the crusaders came to Jerusalem in the 1096, there were no Jews there. There were lots of Christians, however. You see, until 650AD, Judea had been entirely Christian, meaning everyone who lived there was Christian.

This was part of the Byzantine/Roman empire which had, controlled the region for many centuries. Back in the early 300′s, Constantine legalized Christianity and, in the process, made it illegal for Jews to hold Christian slaves.

Lost Tribes – Salvador Dali
Why was this an issue? Try finding out. History erased all of that, the same history that parted the Red Sea.

Between 135AD and 350AD, Jews and Christians in the Middle East hated each other.

The Christians, most at least, had actually been Jews who converted. It is part of that “Christ’ thing we call “Christianity” today. You remember, the “messiah” thing?

History tells us that Jews fought the Romans during the first century, ending 73AD or so. Then they all got on boats and went elsewhere in the Roman empire with a few staying behind.

However, there are no records of any of this. No records of them leaving. No records of them arriving.

No records of them living anywhere else. No records of their traditions in the Roman empire, though, for instance, there were always Jewish settlements in each Roman city.

The old Jewish section of Rome is right off Via Arenula today.

What is a wild claim, however, is that Jews were expelled, moved to the Roman empire and ended up all living in Latvia, Poland, Hungary, Germany, Czechoslovakia and, mostly Russia.

You see, you couldn’t move there then. The Visigoths and even nastier people ran those places.

Visigoths – They Did Not do Neighbors Well
They weren’t part of the Roman empire, never were.

There is no record of Jews leaving Judea, no record of them arriving in the Roman Empire at the time claimed, no record of them living there and no record of them all heading out to Russia and Poland, where 90% of Europe’s Jews had lived for centuries.

There is no historical record of any of this.

There is, however, a historical record of a people from Russia called the Khazars who converted to Judaism and created a great empire nearly as large as the United States.

The “Jewish areas” of Russia and Europe were the eastern portion of Khazaria.

One could assume that all Jews in Russia or Poland, just as Helen Thomas said, were from there and had never been from Judea. We can prove Jews lived there as Khazars. We cannot prove Jews moved there from Judea.

Does this mean that Jews from that region who, after World War II, chose to move to Palestine were bad people? No, of course not. What it does mean is that they never came from there. Is that important?

Only if the wild and insane claim that a convenient mythology allows one people to steal from another. However, this is the nature of phony history, phony religion and mythology. Jews from Russia and Poland look pretty much like everyone else from there.

Byzantine Mural – When Jews were Christians – Before They Were Muslims
Other points. The most likely thing is that Palestinians were once Byzantine Christians and before that Jews. Why? There is no proof they came from anywhere else.

There is proof they have been where they are pretty much forever. There is also proof that people who lived there were, at one time, Jews, then Christians and eventually Muslims. Why change religions?

Governments created incentives for people to change religions, some involved taxes, others involved serious persecution.

This religious persecution in Judea went on for centuries, Jews persecuting Christians and, later, Christians persecuting Jews.

This was long before Islam existed. This is real history.

Before Muslims became “terrorists,” Jews claimed Christians were “terrorists.”

Then Christians said Jews were all “thieves” and ”mongrels” and had killed Christ. Can we prove Christ existed? Actually no, we can’t.

However, the Gospels, such as they are, most burned, some horribly mistranslated, are something of a record, much more of a record than the wild discussions of Moses and “mana” and being lost in Sinai for 40 years.

Would any of it stand up in court? Not for a friggin’ minute!

So, where does this leave us?

Palestinians are probably, by genetic definition, if such exists, the only real Jews.

Most Jews are probably from ethnic groups pushed into Europe, no different than every other migration. The idea of claimed “immunity” to two thousand years of historical resettlement, religious realignments and the total lack of either archaeological or rational written records as a basis of decades of warfare is insane.

We could just as easily be talking about the Phoenicians or Philistines or Hittites or Babylonians, the Greeks, the Ottomans or even Egyptians as having historical claim to Palestine.

Lord Balfour (left of pitcher) – Reception at the Tel-Aviv Municipality in 1925
Something we can come closer to proving is that a corrupt British politician named Balfour, loaded with gambling debts, wrote a short document to a wealthy and even more corrupt banker offering some kind of deal on land that he didn’t control.

Britain had no right to, a “deal” more likely tied to the kind of political payoffs and blackmail used to push President Obama into his humiliating speech to the UN.

It is time that those that call themselves Israeli’s admit they are resettled Europeans like most of us here in America, taking advantage of a poorly armed and primitive population just as Britain, Spain and later the United States did in North America, like Europe did around the world during the colonial era, like one population did to another since time immemorial.
A few classes in Hebrew, discarding Yiddish traditions, doesn’t change history, it only erases heritage.

Supposedly “mechanisms” and “organizations” are in place, since 1945, to prevent such things. A civil war in Libya was carefully orchestrated based on such mechanisms and organizations, an intervention under identical circumstances that exist in Israel or Syria.

Zionism in Action – Being a Light Unto the World ?
But the United States is defending Israel and Russia is defending Syria.

Thus, the great world powers, such as they are, have maneuvered the world through a century of atrocity.

This time the United States is attempting to justify prehistoric barbarism of the Israeli occupation of Palestine using language carefully crafted by “advisors” with the ethical and moral authority of the worst criminal elements of our time.

Use of force to dispossess a people is ethnic cleansing. Separating people by walls in apartheid. An armed enclosure filled with men, women and children is a concentration camp.

This is Palestine today, what is called the “State of Israel.” This is why an American veto is important because the rest of the world sees the truth.

We are asked to endure a century of warfare and economic chaos because of the desire by some to validate bizarre mythologies that are little more than a veneer for something darker.

Israel isn’t about Jews. Israel is just another issue, strong strangling the weak, the clever controlling the many through deception.

Because of Israeli control of media, a few square miles of sand, some stolen and built with senior citizen vacation condos, some farmed by Asian slaves, much still barren and inhospitable, land no American would park an abandoned tractor on, is costing America and Europe a century of economic survival, costing generations of lives, all based on, not just mythology but a continuing stream of carefully crafted lies.

Settlement? Talks? Based on?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/22/phony-history-why-there-will-be-no-peace-in-judea-or-palestine-or-israel-or-whatever/

71 Comments

Vox
September 22, 2011 – 12:45 pm
Phony History:

1. jews are Judeans
2. jews are Israelites
3. Gemany woke up morning and decided to be mean to jews for no reason at all
4. The Nazis killed six million jews with bug spray and without leaving a trace
5. The Nazis had a formal jewish eradication policy
6. Israel is American’s only friend in the Middle East.
7. Christianity is derived from judaism
8. judaism is a religion based on the Old Testament
9. jews are “God’s Chosen People”
10. jews are nice people just misunderstood and persecuted for absolutely no reason

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wallytron
September 22, 2011 – 4:01 pm
I like number 3.

Reply DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 4:24 pm
Amen, pal.

Reply LeslieF
September 23, 2011 – 3:12 am
When Jews work out why there is a Number 10 then maybe they wont be persecuted!

Reply Tom Valentine
September 22, 2011 – 1:04 pm
Perhaps Bucky fuller was right, the cradle of civilization was not the fertile crescent, but was really in the land of ship-builders, Southeast Asia. But Buddhists dont give a damn. I remember some woman writing a book claiming that Jews, not Columbus discovered the Western Hemisphere; Anyone can claim anything.
If a people from the Levant are to be singled out, I agree with Fuller that it should be the phoenicians; after all we have Phonetic spellings all over, and archeological evidences they left in spots of South America.The middle east, or near east as it was called in my school days should belong to Lebanon.

Reply Sam
September 22, 2011 – 1:13 pm
@Vox
If the Holocaust is so iron-clad how come it is against the law to revise it’s history or that moment in time. It is censorship and curtailing freedom of speech. If the evidence is so overwhelming then what are the z_ionist afraid of.

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RJ
September 22, 2011 – 1:20 pm
@ Sam
Ever heard of sarcasm?

Reply Vox
September 22, 2011 – 5:20 pm
Truth doesn’t need laws to defend it.

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LeslieF
September 23, 2011 – 3:15 am
I do not deny there was an abhorrent holocaust but the figure of six million has been prooven excessive and false. So much for your truth!

Reply TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:36 pm
Sam, I think you missed the point…

Reply Anatoly Fomenko
September 22, 2011 – 1:22 pm
The lies of history are peddled by universities funded by more liars, liars and thieves buying more lies from more liars and thieves. In the last 20 years, television documentaries have debunked 75% of what we have accepted as history and done so with scholarship “above the norm.” What is the “norm?” A historical fact is any lie that has more than two people agree to it. What historians call “fact,” any cop would call a “shaky alibi.”

Look into Anatoly Fomenko’s History: Fiction or Science. Most of the “official history” is written by court historians, and still accepted by history departments. If you look into the Middle Ages you’ll see that where most of our historical mythology comes from. The Bible may have been written in the Middle Ages.

The Dead Sea Scrolls, miraculously discovered in 1948 “proving” the official Zionist history, looks like a very convenient fraud.

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 5:18 pm
Now that you mention it, it is all a little too coincidental. Has anyone actually ever seen these alleged Scrolls? If they exist then I suspect the new State of Palestine will want them back, since that’s where they came from. Allegedly.

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Art
September 22, 2011 – 8:19 pm
My info might be old, but some half of National Geographic editorial board has been replaced by Jews. A team of NG has been entrusted with the investigation of the Dead Sea Scrolls. No one else has been given access to the find, assuming such a thing actually was found. Israelis have bad experience with non-Jew scholars once who decided the two excavated artifacts supposedly proving the existence of the first temple were fake.

Reply reamonnk
September 22, 2011 – 5:34 pm
I have done some light internet research on Fomenko’s theory. (youtube vids and read some excerpts from his book) Very interesting.

Reply Gordon Duff
September 22, 2011 – 6:13 pm
Where the Dead Sea Scrolls debunked Israel, they became “unavailable”

Reply TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:39 pm
John Macro Allegro, -an Athiest, the only,of that nature, to review the Dead Sea Scrolls, has some interesting points to make ….Different from his religious counterparts.

Reply Craig Pepe
September 22, 2011 – 1:45 pm
research the phenomena known as the Bible code

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TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:41 pm
CP-Horse Radish!!!

Reply Robbie the Pict
September 22, 2011 – 1:59 pm
Good move Gordon! Any contest of sovereignty starts with history and geography. If you claim to have a culture and tradition sufficient to oblige the world to recognize you as a ‘People’, the universally accepted unit of legal personality, then you must prove the history of your occupation of your native land, history and geography, who lived where in ancient times. The ancient Philistines can demonstrate that with ease. Parts of Palestine remain today. Those squatting in Occupied Palestine have a bit more explaining to do. Their very name is a fabrication coined from three words used to denote ‘God’. ‘Isa’ – (Sumerian/Finno/Ugric), ‘Ra’ – Egyptian, and ‘El’ – Hebrew. Snake oil anyone? Very cheap.

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DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 4:27 pm
I’m interested in some of the Daniel stuff…… any links or references? Thanks…..

Reply Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:49 pm
Actually the word ‘Israel’ is constructed as follows:-

IS = Ishtar, the ‘Whore of Babylon’

RA = Gateway (Semitic from Akkadian roots – see Prof. John M. Allegro ‘The Sacred Muchroom And The Cross’)

EL = Hell

I suspect the imagery to be quite lewd so I won’t go into the gory details here because I know Gordon wants to keep it a family site.

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hareli
September 22, 2011 – 9:52 pm
El is not hell. It is the planet Saturn, which is why the religion’s sabbath is after sundown Friday until sundown Saturday.

Reply hareli
September 22, 2011 – 9:53 pm
IS = Isis.

Reply Tom Valentine
September 22, 2011 – 2:19 pm
BIble code? Oy ! The Talmudists thought that up only after screwing things up for Bible readers.Modern archeology is dominated by Isreli “scholars” who have tried to discredit the Book of Daniel since 1960s.
We are now told Daniel never existed, but Christian Zionists led by Schofield have a complex mythology about the “postponed” 70th Week of Daniel; oh hell never mind, it is all so bleeped up, the only rational conclusion is that Duff has nailed it. The modern history since Balfour is fully known, but it has been “Orwelled.”

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DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 4:29 pm
Sorry for replying to the wrong comment above…… I’m interested in some of the Daniel stuff…… any links or references? Thanks, Tom .…..

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beausoleil
September 22, 2011 – 8:43 pm
You can get something called an ‘annotated study bible’. I have one called the Oxford Annotated Study Bible or something like that. Almost half of every page is full of scholarly footnotes that explain historical background, which passages were probably added later, why it was added later and by whom for what reason. I don’t believe all of the footnotes, myself, but most of it makes sense. Someone reading the Bible today can pretty much pick out the parts that were added and figure out why, like Deuteronomy which is a fundraising ploy by the Levite priests, and the entire Solomon and David BS is propaganda at it’s finest. The bible scholars know that this was added later by the type of words used and the style written. The tribe of Judah were terrorists who forced the other tribes out, but you have to read between the lines to figure that out, just like you have to read between the lines of Victor Hugo’s Les Miserable to know that Napoleon was a terrorist and a writer could not tell the full truth about him, or mention his enemies.

The Oxford study bible was contributed to by a team of scholars and their names and bibliographies are listed, along with maps at different time periods. Much of the literature of the Bible is very beautiful to read, whoever wrote it, especially Isaiah which is a book of prophecy that I personally find pretty amazing in it’s descriptions.

If you are interested in the real history of the area, you have to include a good history of the regions surrounding the middle east, especially Greece, Egypt, Armenia and the stories of Gilgamesh of Mesopotamia. I wouldn’t throw out my Bible for any reason. I enjoy reading it because I see it as literature more than history. My main complaint about bibles is that the word ‘jew’ and ‘judeah’ and ‘judah’ are interchanged when they shouldn’t be. This is called a ‘gloss’ and is exactly like censorship of all histories by all ‘powers that were’ to confuse the issue for obvious reasons.

It’s time for new translations from the greek, and to provide access to recently discovered scrolls, and there’s even a small book written on metal pages that is being held somewhere in Israel right now. A new translation will remove some confusing elements and replace a few things that have been obviously left out, like the southern boundary of the inheritance of the Tribe of Benjamin, assuming there ever was a tribe of Benjamin, but that much does seem likely. The history of the Phoenicians is also very interesting and would naturally be a part of the history of the people who lived in that part of the world, because they obviously would have intermarried. The best way to look at the Bible is to realize that it is a collection of literature from all of the different groups of people who lived in that part of the world at that time.
By the way, the word Yahweh or Yah, in it’s original script is practically the same word as Jove (Greece) and Tao (China).

Reply Truth Seeker
September 22, 2011 – 3:01 pm
I’m sure Abe Foxman will love this peace…

I look at Judea or Jews as the spice of life (spice of the age). Making it up as they go… They have been taking us (humanity) on a journey through the abyss or our darkest thoughts or feelings. Not all, but they have been taking advantage of humans being basically stupid or gullible by nature. The only thing they never counted on was that eventually the process of creating the sheeples reality out of deception and lies will eventually get so ridicules (or their stories will), that people will eventually start to question the illusion they largely have created. I don’t look at it as good or bad, because ultimately it’s only a ride. We still have a ways to go in correcting the ways of deception, but within their ideology has the seeds of their own destruction.

Bill Hicks:
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it’s real because that’s how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it’s very brightly colored, and it’s very loud and it’s fun, for a while…. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question – is this real, or is this just a ride?
And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say ‘Hey! Don’t worry, don’t be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.’ And we…kill those people.

‘Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and family. This just has to be real.’

It’s just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. But it doesn’t matter because: it’s just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It’s only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings, and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourselves off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.

Here’s what you can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.

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Debbie Menon
September 23, 2011 – 3:23 am
Amen.

Hear it from Bill Hick’s…

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/04/bill-hicks-its-just-a-ride/

Reply Starry
September 22, 2011 – 3:30 pm
Jos 24:15 “And if it seems evil in your eyes to serve יהוה, choose for yourselves this day whom you are going to serve, whether the mighty ones which your fathers served that were beyond the River, or the mighty ones of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But I and my house, we serve יהוה.”

Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Gordon Duff, Senior Editor,Thank you for clearing up just what side you work for. I knew you were a sell out too!

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:03 pm
Uh oh. Now you’ve gone and upset “God”, Gordon. You’d better start wearing a lightning conductor on top of the bulletproof vest.

Reply wallytron
September 22, 2011 – 4:05 pm
Oh God, more god crap

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:09 pm
They’re all crawling out of the woodwork with their magic spells in preparation for the UN vote on extending full membership to the aNtiC-hRiSt.

Reply Gordon Duff
September 22, 2011 – 6:14 pm
sorry, not a Catholic

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Doug Sean West
September 23, 2011 – 2:41 am
Gordon you are clearly not a Protestant either.

Some of what you write in this article I agree with, most not.

Ironically the Bible you oppose supports you in so far as it clearly says that the bulk of the people claiming to be Jews in Israel are not Jews and have not been since approx 782BC. Most of Israel was invaded then by the Assyrians (for which clear archaeological evidence exists) and the Jews were taken away never to return. The area occupied by the 10 tribes so affected was re-populated by various peoples from Asia – likely forefathers of the Khazars. This area became known as Samaria and when they claimed to be Jews 700 years later, Christ himself rejected such claim.

The balance of the Jews (tribes of Benjamin and Judah) were killed or dispersed in 70 AD when the Romans drove the Jews out of Palestine. This fact is supported by Josephus whose credentials as a historian are generally accepted. He fought in that war himself, first for the Jews but defected to the Romans half way through. Download “War of the Jews”. (BTW Josephus also referred to Jesus Christ as an historical figure and conceded that no-one was ever in their history able to do the miracles He did.)

The Zionists cannot therefore claim right of occupation in any historical sense. They were conquerors of foreign territory between approx 1200BC and 1000BC but were later themselves conquered. Repeatedly. Checkmate in a secular sense.

Spiritually they were promised Israel by God but were rejected by Him when they killed His Son and their Messiah. God’s promises to the Jews were then transferred to the Christians. We Christians therefore inherit the Kingdom of God (spiritual) and happily look forward to eternal life and the New Jerusalem that God has promised us. Any Jew is welcome to join us if he or she accepts Christ.

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Doug Sean West
September 23, 2011 – 2:44 am
In the meantime I know that no matter what they say to the contrary, the bulk of the Jews who are Zionists hate us and look forward to killing us. Christians who support the Zionists are therefore greatly deceived and are playing into Satan’s hands; they will be surprised one day to find that the USA/Israeli alliance is on the wrong side of Armageddon. God will destroy the Zionists who pretend devotion to Yahweh but whose leaders in reality worship fallen angels such as Lucifer. Fact not fable. Study Rothschild.

Reply TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:50 pm
Starry eyed Shut the FCK Up! with that the lord said Crap! I believe only in the God Force and none of this ,”it is written” crap, complete with numbers, letters, colons, and conflict of previous passages….Crap. This is only for the young soul losers that need to learn what others would innately understand. -Or this is used to manipulate the young souls, and the naive…like your snake charming self!-Don’t get bit by that Rattlesnake-charmer!…

Reply Starry
September 22, 2011 – 3:34 pm
Gal 6:7 Do not be led astray: Yahweh is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he shall also reap.
Gal 6:8 Because he who sows to his own flesh shall reap corruption from the flesh, but he who sows to the Spirit shall reap everlasting life from the Spirit.

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:34 pm
And the chickens cometh home to roost in Palestine.

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TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:52 pm
Nice! PWS! -Passage 13-31…

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TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 11:40 pm
Made that BS Passage up-with Masonic Numerology, then Stewart post about thirteen tribes…

Reply Stewart
September 22, 2011 – 4:03 pm
A perfunctory reference for those unfamiliar with it.
Read “The Thirteenth Tribe”, by Arthur Koestler.

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:06 pm
Uninteresting piece of Jewish fiction. Makes Chumpsky look exciting.

Reply John
September 22, 2011 – 4:21 pm
Whether we like it or not, it is not right or wrong that determines who owns a piece of land but who is able get it, buy it or steal it by superior force. This was done in North and South America, North Africa, Africa, Australia, etc., etc. Forget the niceties when push comes to shove that is what wars are all about. For 2000 years, they were looking at that piece of Middle Eastern land change hands many times until they were able to get it not because of biblical claim but by force of arms. It wasn’t Jesus or Paul that made Christianity great like it is today, but it was Constantine The Great who made it into the official religion of the Roman Empire. Without this boost happening, Christianity may not have been as successful as it became. The Bible just makes people believe that they are better and/or worse than they really are.

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DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 4:40 pm
You’re right, but sometimes the deal looks done before the opposition gets serious. Israel is toast and (decent) people have not yet begun to fight. Bring it on, scum.

Reply TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:54 pm
Thanks John and at this point-Screw the Bible!-Do Not Screw the Palestinian People!-The Focus of this article!

Reply Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:28 pm
“There is, however, a historical record of a people from Russia called the Khazars who converted to Judaism and created a great empire nearly as large as the United States.” – Gordon

I hate to break it to you like this, Gordon, but in actual fact there isn’t a shred of evidence to support the Khazar fantasy. There is no such “historical record”. You have just assumed there was because a piece of fiction has been passed off as ‘research’. It’s in the same category as the ‘Holocaust’, the only difference being that the purpose of the Khazar deception is unclear.

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DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 4:32 pm
Are you talking about the history of planet Earth, or somewhere else?

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:37 pm
I’m talking about the history of the Universe, DaveE.

Reply Truth Seeker
September 22, 2011 – 4:43 pm
Khazar History is in Jewish Encyclopedias published before 1904, not one’s online today.

“Facts are Facts” by Benjamin Freedman
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/facts.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/facts1.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/facts2.htm

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:59 pm
Excuse me? Are you for real? What don’t you get about IT’S ALL MAKE-BELIEVE?

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wolf
September 22, 2011 – 11:23 pm
Peter:
Are you saying that the Khazarian origins of the Ashkezazim are BS? Was there no Khazarian empire?? Then what is your theory as to where they came from?

Reply jack
September 22, 2011 – 9:23 pm
amazon women, ten feet tall

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TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 10:56 pm
Now we are getting somewhere, Jack, like, Beavis, Hea, Hea- Hea Hea….

Reply TJ Bronco
September 22, 2011 – 11:43 pm
PWS where is Penumbra when you need his Encyclopedic Ass??!-No Offense Pen, just colloquial…I respect you sir…

Reply DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 4:44 pm
You know as much about the history of the “universe” as my Spaniel knows about life on Uranus, apparently.

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Peter Wakefield Sault
September 22, 2011 – 4:55 pm
Really? Perhaps you should move over and let Rover take over.

Which particular piece of your precious personal sacred mythology are you getting all defensive about, DaveE? Just so we all know.

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DaveE
September 22, 2011 – 6:33 pm
Nothing at all. The history of the Khazars is too voluminous to reprint, here. It may or may not be “the truth” but it’s as good as anything else I’ve seen offered up (by you or elsewhere) for examination. Such is the nature of history. Defend it, refute it, or shut the eff up.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/22/phony-history-why-there-will-be-no-peace-in-judea-or-palestine-or-israel-or-whatever/

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