The Crimes Of The Fabian Socialist NWO…

The Crimes of The Fabian Socialist NWO

Posted October 5th, 2008 by Republicae

There are an unimaginable number of “conspiracy theories” regarding the New World Order, some with merit, most are simply illogical and without merit. I will not delve into the initial beginning of this “New World Order”, but I begin at a pertinent point in its history that will, hopefully, explain just what they plans have been, how those plans have been implemented and how they will ultimately be defeated by their own plans.

It is vital to understand that the New World Order is inextricably tied to the Fabian Socialists which formed in England during the later part of the 1800s and their intricate plans for a global fascist-socialistic society. In fact, there is no New World Order outside of the Fabian Socialist agenda. It should be remembered that the Fabian Socialists were equally accepted in both the Nazi/Fascist and the Communist/Marxist/Leninist/Maoist/Trotskite ideologies. The Fabians have been, throughout their history, political and social chameleons who have, through stealth and deception, changed their outer skin to infiltrate every political, social and educational institution around the world, particularly in Great Britain and the United States. Speaking of chameleons, the primary symbol of the Fabians is a “wolf wrapped in a sheep’s skin”.

The Fabians, like all socialists, are completely dedicated to the centralization of all power, in all aspects of society and government. Their primary push as been to advance the idea that the power of government, The State, is the center of society. Fabians are not above calling themselves anti-socialist, conservatives, liberals, moderates, or any other name in order to achieve their goals of centralization. They are not above joining any group that can be used to influence official and public opinion to achieve their goals and indeed, they have succeeded over the decades to do just that. The rise of The State, its well-being and the gradual increase in its power is of primary importance to the Fabians over any and all considerations for the individual. Their goal has been to wean the individual away from self-dependence and responsibility toward a dependency on The State and a sense of responsibility toward the “common good”.

Their “silent revolution” undermines a nation from within, deep within the bowels of the society in order accommodate a gradual, incremental transformation into a socialist society. One of the famous Fabians was George Bernard Shaw, the playwright, he stated clearly the techniques the Fabians used: “Our propaganda is one of permeating – we urged our members to join the Liberal and Radical Associations in their district, or, if they preferred it, the Conservative Associations – we permeated the party organizations and pulled all the strings we could lay our hands on with the utmost adroitness and energy, and we succeeded so well that in 1888 we gained the solid advantage of a Progressive majority full of ideas that would never have come into their heads had not the Fabians put them there.”

In 1889, Sidney Webb, another Fabian said:
“The Fabian Society occupies a different sphere as a Socialist Society from that of the two larger bodies. It includes members of all the other organizations, with a number of active workers chiefly of the middle class, and ‘literary proletariat’. . . . The Society exercises a considerable influence, more real than apparent, by the personal participation of its members in nearly all reform movements, as well as by their work at the Universities and in the fields of journalism and the teaching of Political Economy. It is not, however, a numerous body, and makes no attempt to increase its numbers beyond a convenient limit.”

In his book The New Despotism, Lord Hewart, written in 1929, revealed the serious nature of the Fabians involvement in the British government: “A mass of evidence establishes the fact that there is in existence a persistent and well-contrived system, intending to produce, and in practice producing, a despotic power which at one and the same time places Government departments beyond the sovereignty of Parliament and beyond the jurisdiction of the Courts.”

It is evident that the expansion of the Fabian Socialist Plan has been successfully extended to the United States with the primary push during the Administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 30s and 40s. Needless to say, the Fabians had a direct influence on Woodrow Wilson and the creation of several pieces of legislation, including the Federal Reserve Act, as well as the 16th and 17th Amendments; all of which set the stage for every component for the future implementation of the Fabian Plan. The primary influence on Wilson was Colonel Edward Mandell House, the Fabian who was influential in the founding of the Council on Foreign Relations along with the bankers: J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch, Otto Kahn, Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg. As we know, House was also heavily involved with the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Round Table Group and the forerunner of the United Nations, the League of Nations. All, each and every one of these institutions, including any ancillary organizations, is completely Fabian in concept, ideology and agenda.

“The crisis [the Great Depression] discovered a great man in Franklin Roosevelt…None too soon he has carried America forward to the second stage of democratic realization. His New Deal involves such collective controls of the national business that it would be absurd to call it anything but socialism, were it not for a prejudice lingering on from the old individualist days against that word…Both Roosevelt and Stalin were attempting to produce a huge, modern, scientifically organized, socialist state, the one out of a warning crisis and the other out of a chaos…” H.G. Wells The Fate of Man 1939

Now, another extremely important point of understanding of the Fabian Socialist can be found in a book by Colonel House called Philip Dru: Administrator. In this book Colonel House describes the political agenda of the Fabians in the implementation of the New World Order under the Administration of the Fabian Socialists. It is a very scary scenario and the strategies found in this book have been enacted, step by step, stage by stage, ever since it was written. Within it can be found the plan of having a small, select group of powerful insiders causing a depression which compels the country to elect a man who just happens to talk to the people in what is called “fireside chats” in which this newly elected president will introduce and launch a plan called “The New Era”.[now remember this book was written in 1912] From that point, these insiders [Fabians]control the government, control the banks and corporations, weaken the country to the point that there is a very real chance of society splitting in civil war, at which point a dictatorship is imposed on the justification of keeping the country together. The character in the book that assumes dictatorial power is named Philip Dru, the Administrator.

There is absolutely no doubt that the implementation of the New Deal was nothing more than that of the Fabian Socialist Plan. The Fabian Political and Economic Planning Committee proved indispensable in the formation of the New Deal, in fact if you read what the New Deal accomplished and compare it to the Fabian P.E.P. they are almost indistinguishable from each other. A portion of the Fabian P.E.P. stated: “The individualistic manufacturer and farmer will be forced by events to submit to far-reaching changes in outlook and methods. What is required, if with only a view to equitable treatment of individuals, is transfer of ownership of large blocks of land – not necessarily of all the land in the country, but certainly a large proportion of it – into the hands of the proposed statutory corporations and public utility bodies and of land trusts.”

Another principal instrument used in the New Deal creation was the monetary and economic policies proposed by John Maynard Keynes and the Marxist Dexter White. White, of course, played a primary role in the development of the Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944 and the establishment of the IMF. In fact, White was later appointed the Director of the IMF by President Truman.

The great American Patriot John T. Flynn stated in his book entitled The Road Ahead that there was a “creeping revolution” taking place in the United States and made a clear connection between Fascism and Fabian Socialism when he said: “. . . the line between Fascism and Fabian Socialism is very thin. Fabian Socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian Socialism plus the inevitable dictator.”

The Fabian Socialist have intentionally presented their ideology within a very socially acceptable package; humanitarian in appearance and approach, its actual purpose is complete, absolute power over society as administered through an iron fist covered in a kid-skin glove.

John Maynard Keynes promoted his services as a capitalist economist, but the reality of his politics and his economics were far from capitalistic. One Fabian Socialist by the name of John Strachey was very clear about the true intentions of Keynesian Economics and monetary policy. He proposed Keynesian policies as “an indispensable step in the right direction. The fact that the loss of objectivity, and the intrinsic value of the currency which is involved (i.e., inflation) will sooner or later make necessary, on pain of ever-increasing dislocation, a growing degree of social control . . . for the partial character of the policy will itself lead on to further measures. The very fact that no stability, no permanently workable solution can be found within the limits of this policy will ensure that once a community has been driven by events to tackle its problems, in this way, it cannot halt at the first stage, but must of necessity push on to more thorough going measures of re-organization.”

Keynes stated: “Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security, but at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth. Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become ‘profiteers,’ who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat. As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.”

Sounds like a familiar process doesn’t it? The fact is that the Fabians have been in, in one degree or another, control of this country since at least the later part of the 1800s, some may say since 1860 with the nationalist putsch by Lincoln [who was influenced by Marxists from the failed revolution of 1848] and have continued to press their agenda into a Socialist society.

Perhaps one of the most important points to understand is the purpose of the central banking system and the fiat monetary system to the Fabian Socialist New World Order Plan. As explained by H.G. Wells, in his 1930 book entitled The New World Order:

“…we grasp this not very obscure truth that there can be, and are, different sorts of money dependent on the economic usages or system inoperable, which are not really interchangeable, then it becomes plain that a collectivist world order, whose fundamental law is such a Declaration of Rights as we have sketched, will have to carry on its main, its primary operations at least with a new world money, a specially contrived money, differing in its nature from any sort of money conventions that have hitherto served human needs. It will be issued against the total purchasable output of the community in return for the workers’ services to the community.”

H.G. Wells described that as a part, one of the primary parts of the Fabian New World Order’s Plan was the contrivance of a monetary system that would be issued, through a central banking system, against the total productive output of the society exchangeable in return for labor. The description is striking because what it denotes is a monetary system where there is no real value to the money itself, in other words a fiat currency, but the “value” would be the production of labor. Now, if you put this together with the quotes from Keynes, you will quickly see that the key to their plan was a highly centralized government with a highly centralized banking system issuing a monetary unit, which through the instrument of inflation, would be reduced from an actual value to a value based solely upon the exchange of labor. This was a truly socialistic concept, that inflation would be used to transform the sound monetary system of the United States into a socialistic monetary system where the exchange rate is the actual labor of the population. Today, that is what we have, our money has no value, but it is exchanged based upon labor.

I realize that many thing the New World Order is simply playing the next stage in their plans to impose a complete socialistic society during this latest economic crisis, but in my research I see a very different story. Based on the Fabian Socialist Political and Economic Planning Committee, the New World Order has made no other plans for another monetary system except the Fiat Monetary System and Central Banking System that are now in place and which are now in crisis. I am of the opinion that the New World Order is in trouble, the elite is in trouble because the system that they have spent at least the last 95 years investing all of their power, their time, their resources and intellect in is rapidly approaching a period of time when it will completely collapse. For decades they have pressed their plans, all based on a socialistic vision of creating little more than a feudal system of peonage where the people make up the productive base of their wealth through a system of confiscation and transference from the people themselves into the coffers of the Elite Administrators. Their Socialist Empire is completely built upon and dependent on the continuation of this system; the only system left to them would be a system of complete slavery and that is untenable and totally non-conducive to their plans of Socialism because it would not allow for the continued productive transfer of wealth as the current system allows.

So, as much as these Fabian Elites have put into this system, as much as they seemed to think they could continue the control of the system and extend it globally, they appear to have deluded themselves into thinking that an economic system built solely upon the creation and extension of debt was sustainable indefinitely. The Debt Standard of Fiat Money, based upon labor exchange and debt expansion will collapse, it is a mathematical impossibility for it to continue and with that collapse the Fabian Elite will lose not only their ability to maintain their power, but they will lose their wealth and position in our country and others. Once the collapse of the monetary and economic systems occur, they will have no options left to them, there will be nothing they can do to salvage the system.

There can be no doubt that during this time of collapse the Fabian Socialists will show their true nature, the heart of which is brutal disregard of the individual. They will attempt to put a death grip on society, squeezing as much life as they can from it and will do so in the most extreme ways imaginable. We must however, never relent or retreat from our principles, from our goal of Liberty and Freedom, even when the Fabian New World Order Thugs begin their final oppressive push to retain their power and wealth.

There will be a period of chaos, during this period we must consider the Elite as absolute enemies of the People, of Liberty and Freedom. During that period we must consider such criminals the legitimate focus for the People’s Justice. I personally see no other options but the total and absolute elimination of the sources of this Fabian Socialist plague from our land. Until this land is purged from the influence of this Fabian Socialist Ideology the Constitutional Republic will not be safe for Liberty and Freedom, nor will prosperity ever return as long as they remain a viable force.

Now, I leave you with these horrible thoughts from one of the Fabian Traitors, David Rockefeller: “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

In Liberty and Eternal Vigilance,


“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were once our countrymen.”
~ Samuel Adams

12 responses to “The Crimes Of The Fabian Socialist NWO…

  1. One of the 300 Fabian’s known to sit in Westminster…..

  2. There can be no doubt that during this time of collapse the Fabian Socialists will show their true nature, the heart of which is brutal disregard of the individual. They will attempt to put a death grip on society, squeezing as much life as they can from it and will do so in the most extreme ways imaginable

    Fabian Motto- when we strike-we strike hard…..

    isn’t that telling you something about these anti democratic banking and political thugs?

    Should the hounding of BNP members from state employment also apply to Fabian Society Members, i.e.New Labour?
    In an affront to democratic freedom the government have sacked members of the far right nationalist party the BNP from work in the public sector..

    But in the interest of equal treatment, should not members of the extreme left wing group, the communist think tank, The Fabian Society, also be similarly sacked?

    In a stroke this would remove, Gordon Brown, almost all of his ministers, and to quote from the Fabian Society website, 300 Fabian MPS. How strange, as I cannot recall any MP standing for election as a Fabian.

    But as the BNP stand for British National identity, and The Fabian Society, believe in subverting democracy from within and creating a socialist government, which would become a communist government by default, I personally, would reinstate the rights of the BNP and sack the fraudulent cowards of the, Fabian Society, who hide behind the banner of the Labour Party, whille undermining our democracy. Indeed they should be prosecuted for criminal misrepresentation.

    How fitting the Fabian Society emblem, a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing, is for the liar, Gordon Brown.

    Here’s a quote from the Fabians, which will explain why New Labour says one thing, but does the other.

    “We are at present working … with all our might to wrest this mysterious political force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local states of the world. And all the time, we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands.”
    — Arnold Toynbee, well-known British historian, Fabian, and member of the Royal Institute of International Affairs (the British equivalent of the Council on Foreign Relations).

    Should we insist on the sacking of all members of the Fabian Society on the basis that they are enemies of the state?
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    To suggest that the Fabians are not actively subverting government belies the spiel of their own website.
    Their entire philosophy is based upon Fabius who used the same techniques to destroy Hanniball, from within.

    That’s the reason for the Wold in Sheep’s Clothing emblem, but they also have another.

    A tortoise with one taloned foot raise and the motto, When I Strike, I Strike Hard. Illustrating the virtue of a slow approach and the a decisive strike, hardly the motto for a harmless think tank, is it?
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    Our country is based on the principal the we have the right to free speech,chose of religion without fear of persecution or prosecution,right to chose or work environment,and most importantly or right to be long to any political party without fear of persecution or prosecution….
    these are our basic rights in this country if we allow them to be eroded throe fear were doe’s the fear stop…
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    Asker’s Rating: Asker’s Comment: Yep, you have hit the nail on the head.

    We are in the realms of New World Order, an ongoing plan to create a World Government managing a human population that has been reduced to 500 million.

    Already the USA has 800 prison camps which look like concentration camps and are manned full time.

    Many are waking up to the EVIL we have in Western Nations-posing as various parties………….example LABOUR-TORIES AND LIBDEMS!!


    Coping with post-democracy.
    by Colin Crouch, Fabian Society

    About this title: Argues that the democratic movement has passed, and that, in the West, we are moving into a post-democratic age where power becomes increasingly concentrated in the hands of a professionalized, political elite. Also shows how our opportunities for participating in public life have diminished.


  4. BLAIRS OBVIOUS LIES……….AND BBCs propaganda.

    Transcript of BBC Radio 4, Today, 8th June 2004, Interview with Tony Blair, 8.10am (Extract)

    TONY BLAIR: We do need to challenge this notion that the interests of Britain in the early 21st Century are best fulfilled by us leaving the biggest economic and political union on earth.

    JAMES NAUGHTIE: Well, you say you need to challenge it, surely that’s what you should have been doing for seven years, because the fact is, under your leadership, more people than at any point since 1975 appear to be – if we read the opinion polls on UKIP and so on – saying ‘no’ to the European Union. Not just that they don’t like some of the things coming out of Brussels, but they don’t want to be in it at all.

    TONY BLAIR: Well, it’s a fair point. It’s not that we haven’t made the points though, and every single interview that I give, every speech that I make, I say why it’s important for Britain to be part of Europe. And one of the reasons why I changed our position on the referendum and the Constitutional treaty is because I think it is time not to have this as a sort of protest, but let’s have a real debate. Is it actually sensible, when 60% of our trade is with Europe, when millions of jobs are with Europe, for us – when every other country anywhere around Europe is trying to get into the European Union – to get out of it?


    JN: Do you mean that the apparent increase in support for UKIP will actually help you?

    Moves on to discuss UKIP, the EU Constitution, Conservative position on Europe; Referendum Timing; his leadership of the party;





  7. December 2, 2008 ·
    Common Purpose, the game is up.

    So what is going on in Britain 2008?

    1. The key to understanding what is going on in Britain 2008 is to realise that New Labour is Fabian.

    2. The final objective of the Fabians is to create a One World Communitarian (’Third Way’) government. This ties in with the New World Order project.

    3. Common Purpose is the management mechanism being used to carry out the true and hidden agenda of Fabian New Labour.

    4. The economic and social chaos that we are witnessing nowadays has been deliberately engineered by Fabian New Labour and Common Purpose along with New World Order plotters in places like the United States and the European Union.

    5. There are literally no depths to which this institutionally-corrupt Fabian New Labour government will not descend: multi-billion Eurofraud, relentless and ruthless abuses of citizens, lying, cheating, secrecy, going to war on the basis of lies, oppressive social control, abrogating sovereign rule to Brussels, corruption, deceit, fraud, treachery, bankrupting the country and so on.

    6. Why was there no mention of the New World Order project in New Labour’s 2005 election manifesto?

    Common Purpose Objectives
    The main objective of Common Purpose is social control in a collectivist and corporatist society.

    The other objectives of Common Purpose are the destruction of the national identity of Britain, the destruction of democracy in Britain, the undermining of traditional beliefs and values and the slow, secretive merging of the public and private sectors into a state-controlled partnership.

    More about Common Purpose objectives…

    Common Purpose and the European Union

    Common Purpose is a recruitment organisation being used to recruit the bureaucrats needed to run Britain when the country is taken over by the European Union.

    Common Purpose is a Marxist-led, European Union ‘Trojan Horse’ fifth column operation and is part of the mechanism being used by Brussels to undermine and soften up British society to pave the way for the take-over of Britain by the European Union Collective of Communist Purpose (EUCCP), also known as the European Union Police State.

    The European superstate is designed to be centrally controlled and managed at lower levels by bland and brain dead ‘leaders’ who are all programmed to think the same. This is where Common Purpose comes in.


    Gerald Warner
    Gerald Warner is an author, broadcaster, columnist and polemical commentator who writes about politics, religion, history, culture and society in general. This circus must end: it is time for the Queen to dissolve Parliament

    By Gerald Warner Politics Last updated: June 5th, 2009


    You know how it is. You bend down to pick up a paper you have dropped and when you look across the Cabinet table again, there’s another empty seat. How does Gordon Brown keep track of who’s in and who’s out of his Cabinet? How do ministers themselves remember whether or not they are currently in the Government?

    Whitehall must be full of confused men and women, wandering around like lost souls trying to recall which department they should be going into, theoretically to run it. And all the time, virtually disregarded, local election results are pouring in, reporting the annihilation of The Party We Love in local government. All those YouTube parodies of the Führerbunker are becoming hopelessly inaccurate: the Führer ran a comparatively tight ship up until the end; Brown’s Gotterdämmerung is completely chaotic.

    What aggravates this shambles is the fact it is happening in the depths of a recession, with people losing their jobs and houses. What is this insanity doing to the markets? Who in the world now takes this country seriously? Brown’s lunatic spending has put us in hock until 2030: how much more damage is he to be allowed to inflict on Britain before he is stopped?

    Nothing can be done about it, is the fashionable wail – it’s that looney, periwigged constitution of ours to blame. Nonsense. Red herrings about superfluous constitutional reform, offered as a bare-faced distraction from the Parliamentary expenses crisis, have been allowed to disguise the fact that we have a robust and versatile constitution perfectly well equipped to cope with a crisis such as this.

    The Queen, in these exceptional circumstances, has the undoubted right to dissolve Parliament and force a general election, for the good of the country. There is precedent: in 1834, William IV dismissed the Melbourne Whig ministry because it sought to appoint ministers unacceptable to him and asked the Conservative Sir Robert Peel to form a government; Peel almost immediately went to the country.

    Some people thought the Parliamentary expenses scandal merited a royal dissolution, but the case was not sufficiently made. Now, however, the meltdown of Cabinet government – at the core of the constitution – and election results confirming the electorate’s rejection of the Brown administration would justify such a use of the royal prerogative. This would not be a controversial move such as, historically, the choice of Lord Home as prime minister in preference to Rab Butler, but a response to a national emergency.

    Nobody could accuse the Queen of abusing the royal prerogative since she would be using it purely to give a voice to her people. It would be an assertion of democracy, not a departure from it. Gordon Brown will never go voluntarily: it is time for Her Majesty to intervene. This is precisely what the Monarchy is for.

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    Some hope…we’re in for yet another ‘fightback’ or ‘relaunch’….assassination would be my preferred choice.

    cheekyboy on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
    Report commentExactly. A case for a new election couldn’t be more plain nor more needed. In addition to the issue of Lord Melbourne is the more modern example of Gough Whitlam in Australia. Her Majesty’s advisers must allow the constitution to work properly, and eschew timidity for fearing for the Queen’s position.

    ragnar_redhair on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
    Report commentJust how many lords can Gordon create without asking the queen.

    mysay on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
    Report commentCrash Gordon is a power-crazed, pathologically dishonest sociopath. Next year there will be another reason why he should stay. A war? Marshall law? Opposition deported to Siberia?


    antonia on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
    Report commentPerhaps Her Majesty is waiting for the Euro results.

    stopcommonpurpose on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
    Report commentDOG: PICK YOUR OWN NOSE

    And in a deft final polish to the Turd, Glenys Kinnock, who has never been elected as a Member of Parliament, is elevated to the peerage to be Europe minister in place of Flint. What a complete bloody shambles. The self-selecting cabinet, stuffed full of cronies who haven’t been elected or have cherry-picked their own ministries.

    Time indeed for the Queen to end this fiasco.

    same_old_dog on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
    Report commentI think the only two conditions the Queen could do this would be if:

    1) A national emergency occurs which the government cannot cope with.
    2) The government of the day tries to change the constitution to advantage itself in future elections, without an electoral mandate to do so.

    I think No 2 could apply soon.

    man_in_a_shed on Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    Report commentLet’s just wait out the weekend. Euro elections will be very telling. If those are a disaster, she really must stand up and allow her people a voice. They are your government ma’am, show them what you’re made of.

    markm80 on Jun 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
    Report commentWhen Bliar threw us into an illegal war in Iraq, he scared us all with talk of WMDs.

    He forgot the specifics: there was only one WMD, it was next door at No 11 at the time… but it was still aimed at us.

    And just look at the damage it’s caused.

    aonaran on Jun 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
    Report commentI think you’re right, she should, in an ideal world. Unfortunately if she did, the republicans would all come out of the woodwork and, assuming Labour won the resulting election (as if!), the first piece of legislation they’d pass would be to “reform” the constitution so that it could never happen again.

    robinson on Jun 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
    Report commentHer majesty will require more than the standard procedure to remove commander Brown from No. 10. The PM has barricaded himself in, with “The Knights Three” defending him, each at point in a wobbly triangle, with swords drawn awaiting the next onslaught from the ship’s mutineering blaggards. Shipmates Darling, Johnson and Milleband, honourable to the death, will forego elevensies to do their duty. Harriet will be on hand to make the high tea mid afternoon. Phew! All is not lost.

    island-of-the-mad on Jun 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
    Report commentThere ais reliable evidence that, while ensconced in the bunker in March 1945, Goebbels used to screen recordings of Gordon’s YouTube speeches to keep the Fuehrer amused.

    johnt on Jun 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
    Report commentA quiet vigil would work wonders – if attended by a few hundred thousand people.

    mrs_trellis on Jun 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
    Report commentMrs T – indeed, or even a pledge by Call Me Dave to institute an opposition boycott of the HOC as long as this illegitimate maladministration clings to office.

    tg45govt on Jun 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
    Report commentTen Broon Bottlers?

    true_belle on Jun 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
    Report commentLike the Countryside march, Mrs T?

    true_belle on Jun 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
    Report commentRight on Govt. Shut the damn place down. If they can manage in the Netherlands and Belgium without a government I sure UK could until they have to call an election.

    horseman on Jun 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
    Report commentRagnar Redhair:

    It has happened more than once in Australia.

    Jack Lang the (somewhat self-obsessed) socialist Premier of New South Wales was also dismissed by the State Governor, Sir Philip Game, during the Great Depression. Lang was threatening to use the New South Wales Police Force to barricade the State Treasury building as a means of preventing the Commonwealth from sending in the Army to seize the gold reserves it was entitled to have remitted to it (this was back in the days when the States raised income tax, rather than the Commonwealth).

    It is often forgotten (or not realised) today quite how close Australia came to domestic armed conflict in the early 1930’s, primarily as a result of Lang’s mad program of nationalisation and confiscation that was taking place in New South Wales.

    In Whitlam’s case of course (Nov. 1975), the Labour party was attempting to govern with no money (since they couldn’t get their Supply bill through a hostile Senate). In order to try and fund their spending sprees, they had been trying to arrange for the Treasury to borrow money from an extremely dodgy businessman by the name of Tirath Khemlani in order to keep the government going! Absolutely disgraceful, but so typical of the kind of criminality and lunacy that always accompanies socialists when they seize the trappings of power.

    audemus_dicere on Jun 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
    Report commentGordon Brown must be allowed to remain in power. He is close to achieving the historic task of destroying the Labour Party and must not be stopped. Then, perhaps, we can hope for the rise of a left-of-centre party that does not destroy the economy every time it gets power. As a democrat, I accept the need for a left-of-centre party, although I would not vote for it.

    timcalvert on Jun 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
    Report commentTim – my sentiments exactly. Another week or two of this and ZaNuLieBore’s McClown will have completely destroyed the Labour Party. He simply must be kept in office, even if he is a corpse propped-up and strapped into the saddle, El Cid style.

    geheimestaatspolizei on Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    Report commentThe Queen should stay out of it. These are very tricky times and if the Conservatives win the next election, they will inherit a bankrupt country. There will be no money to spend on services and it would not surprise me that instead of understanding the difficulties that will be faced, the electorate will blame them and vote Labour in again in 2015.

    The first thing Labour would do then is dispose of the Monarchy.

    Tony Blair and others knew that this man Brown was a seriously damaged individual, yet they allowed him to become Prime Minister. Just think of that and realise Blair’s lack of integrity towards his country.

    We must blame the electorate as it has been obvious from the beginning that Labour is corrupt.

    Remember the Eccleston affair? All the lies and spin? Iraq? Dr David Kelley?

    We have the government the people deserve after being too lazy to vote and too lazy to read and understand what has been going on.

    Unfortunately, for those of us who take the trouble to keep up with current affairs, we suffer too.

    usuallydiscrete on Jun 6th, 2009 at 7:42 am
    Report commentJust remember what the Tories were like, and if you are much older than Cameron, just worry about the things he wants to cut back on, and consider whether you are financially well cushioned enough to withstand the rigours ahead with a Tory government in power!

    true_belle on Jun 6th, 2009 at 9:31 am
    Report commentSorry, I can’t agree with the original post. If there were a vote of confidence in the government, then the present bunch of reptiles would survive it, and so they could carry on in office.

    It is just possible that the accepted role of the monarchy has changed in the last 175 years; in any case the Queen is not going to sack a government just because it consists of liars, cheats and thieves. What’s more, 23% of the population are still bonkers enough to vote Labour.

    hamishmcglobbie on Jun 6th, 2009 at 10:35 am
    Report commentMr Warner,

    My attitude is much the same as yours but I’d like you to outline and weigh up the constitutional issues before calling for the intervention of the sovereign.

    Isn’t it the case that the Commons must make an an approach to the monarch, having established a majority, rather than the other way around?

    Any king or queen who attempted to canvass for an alternative government would certainly stoke republican sentiment in the country.

    I think Mr Brown would welcome an attempt by the Crown to intervene in the crisis by opening another route to drive his republican and Marxist agenda.

    Be patient and tread softly!

    cisco_kydd on Jun 6th, 2009 at 11:20 am
    Report commentTrue Belle – you are showing your anti-Conservative bias again! How is that goiong down with your local activists, or are you hiding your light under a bushel?

    tg45govt on Jun 6th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
    Report commentTrue Bell,

    “Just remember what the Tories were like, and if you are much older than Cameron, just worry about the things he wants to cut back on, and consider whether you are financially well cushioned enough to withstand the rigours ahead with a Tory government in power!”

    I do remember and thank you for reminding me.

    I remember Labour bankrupted the UK in the 1970s and called the IMF in to bail us out. The IMF applied the financial straight jacket as one of the conditions for their assistance and the Conservatives paid back the UK’s debts.

    I was not here in the 1970s when they could not bury the dead and the rubbish bags were piled up in the streets.

    You on the left have very selective memories.

    The UK is bankrupt now and unless Cameron signals he will cut spending if he wins the next election, our AAA rating will be removed.

    That means, that instead of paying GP 49 billion a year in interest on the debts Labour has incurred, we will be paying even higher interest payments. Rather a lot of money is it not?

    That is without the debt that has been hidden, which I guess is close to One and a half trillion Pounds.

    Furthermore, there will be a GP 150 billion shortfall in tax revenue coming in.

    The cupboard is bare and the country is deep in debt. If we don’t pay it back, we will continue to pay huge sums of money in interest every year, seriously damaging education, the NHS, roads, defence and State Pensions.

    Understand that now?

    usuallydiscrete on Jun 6th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    Report commentWell exactly. Although it will be costly and delaying, we need a Govt in place that is cohesive and not afraid to address the current problems, not this rabble of thieves who are busy doublecheckign that they put everything in their safe deposit boxes and taht every last possible expense is submitted….
    Plus this Govt is embarrassing the Queen and the whole country….
    If she did step up and do something the world would take notice – it would actually raise the British Profile again, which we sorely need.
    We have fallen into a morass and need to take decisive action to save our country from losing what dignity it has left.

    I know for sure that our Govt serves itself, not its citizens. We have become an airport with great benefits, supported by the few. Its sad, and will only get worse.

    josieg666 on Jun 6th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
    Report commentI have found an extremely interesting Report on the UK MEPs performance in the European Parliament commissioned by the Tax Payers Association. It has reviewed the performance of each MEP and ranked them on the basis of their performance.

    Top performer was J. Allister (Ulster) with 6 CONS, 1 UKIP, 1 LibDem and 1 Green in the top ten.
    The bottom 10 is revealing; 1 Con, 1 LibDem, 1 Independent and 7 (yes seven) LAB. Glynis Kinnock (now Lady Kinnock, Minister for Europe – Yes indeed) being very near the bottom.

    The Labour Party claims to be representing our interests in Europe but this performance of the Labour representatives give the lie direct to that claim.

    The debate on the Gravy Train where “Reforms proposed the replacement of blank cheques for MEP travel with payment for receipts, an audit of MEP second pensions, reform of the sanctions system for fraudsters, and an end to the Strasbourg commute” was OPPOSED by Kinnock (a surprise ??? I think not)

    A Motion of Censure against Barroso ( the leader of the Commission whose accounts HAVE NOT BEEN AUDITED for 14 years) was OPPOSED by Kinnock

    Citizens For Europe Programme: provides for large amounts of money to go towards pro-EU cheerleaders ……. This waste of money was supported by Kinnock.

    Rules changed to block filibuster 31 January 2008
    Opponents of the Lisbon Treaty used the procedural rules to slightly delay the passage of the EP’s ratification of the Lisbon Treaty, as a one-off protest at the way in which No votes in
    referenda were being suppressed.
    In reaction, the pro-integration lobby decided on a shameful ad hoc change of the rules to suppress this legal opposition. Again Kinnock voted for the motion

    And so it goes on. Looking after the interests of the UK public, which was massively against Lisbon and other issues was clearly not supported by Kinnock.

    I can only hope that those europhiles up for election this time have been thrown out but is it not significant that the media failed to publicise this report BEFORE the election last Thursday?

    mikec on Jun 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    Report comment“Just remember what the Tories were like”

    Which Tories, Belle? The ones who trashed Scargill and the bully-boy unions and restored the economy?

    Or were you thinking of the ones who betrayed her?

    mrs_trellis on Jun 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    Report commentWe must pay the money back. Anyone, including me, who has been irresponsible with debt (credit cards), knows spending makes you feel rich and paying it back makes you poor.

    Governments have to borrow money from the international markets, we are now in hock and we will have to cut spending.

    Gordon Brown has already put in place cuts to the Health Service of 25% in 2012, IF he is returned to power. If he loses, he knows the Tories will carry the can.

    We must hope for a Tory victory, to encourage investors to come back to the country.

    usuallydiscrete on Jun 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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    true_belle on Jun 6th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
    Report commentMrs Trellis,

    Which Tories, Belle? The ones who trashed Scargill and the bully-boy unions and restored the economy?

    Or were you thinking of the ones who betrayed her?

    With all due respect, the Unions were a good thing for the British people, who unfortunately became corrupt on their own power and greed. Scargill also defended the Miners who were losing their jobs resulting in the destruction of families and community.
    And lastly, let us also not forget that it was Thatcher who abolished corporal punishment in the schools which was the spark to dry kindling that created our feral youth culture and undisciplined education system of today.
    Thatcher did some good, I won’t deny that, but the Tories also did bad. And to make things worse, there are no Conservatives anymore, only Cameron’s Social Democrats.

    rtl on Jun 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
    Report commentGood replies, Belle & Winston.

    What does this tell us? That the politicians don’t really control the country? That they do as they are told by manipuative civil servants and quangocrats? Yes, I think so.

    Belle – Heseltine was being disingenuous. He meant “for the good of himself”. His famous ‘destiny’ to be PM is now matched by a similar belief by Mandy. They have a lot in common.

    mrs_trellis on Jun 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    Report commentI totally agree.
    The Queen should let the people decided.
    One way or the other.
    Albert of Alvelon and Cameolot.

    magnacarta on Jun 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
    Report commentWhy has the expenses scandal begun to fade into obscurity? Worse still, Malik is back! Dissolution seems a very sound option.

    It’s time to MARCH! I’d rather trust the running of the country to HM at the moment; until politicians prove they are worthy once more, at least..

    bavonww on Jun 9th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
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